Heat Equation + 2 Robin Boundary Conditions

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The discussion focuses on solving the heat equation for a long thin bar with Robin boundary conditions. The initial temperature is defined as u(x,0) = f(x), and the boundary conditions are debated regarding the placement of the negative sign in the equations u_{x}(-a,t) = (h/k)u(-a,t) and u_{x}(a,t) = -(h/k)u(a,t). The consensus is that the negative sign should be present at the +a end, indicating that the temperature decreases in the positive direction. This conclusion is based on the physical interpretation of temperature distribution along the bar.

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Homework Statement



Find the temperature distribution in the long thin bar −a ≤ x ≤ a with a
given initial temperature u(x,0) = f(x).
The side walls of the bar are insulated, while heat radiates from the ends into
the surrounding medium whose temperature is u = 0.
The radiation is taken to obey Newton’s Law.



Homework Equations



u_{t} = \alpha^{2}u_{x}_{x}
u_{x}(-a,t) = (h/k)u(-a,t)
u_{x}(a,t) = -(h/k)u(a,t)
u(x,0) = f(x)

h and k are constants.





The Attempt at a Solution



My main concern is: I do not know if according to the problem description, the BCs should be as written above OR
<br /> u_{x}(-a,t) = -(h/k)u(-a,t)
u_{x}(a,t) = (h/k)u(a,t)

I had to construct the BCs myself, they were not given explicitly in equation form.

notice that the only difference is that the negative sign has gone from one equation to the other. I would appreciate it if someone could tell me where the negative sign belongs, and perhaps also explain why, I did not fully grasp the explanation I was given in class. Thank You.
 
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Hi PAR! :smile:

(have an alpha: α and try using the X2 and X2 tags just above the Reply box :wink:)
PAR said:
Find the temperature distribution in the long thin bar −a ≤ x ≤ a with a
given initial temperature u(x,0) = f(x).
The side walls of the bar are insulated, while heat radiates from the ends into
the surrounding medium whose temperature is u = 0.
The radiation is taken to obey Newton’s Law.

My main concern is: I do not know if according to the problem description, the BCs should be as written above OR
<br /> u_{x}(-a,t) = -(h/k)u(-a,t)
u_{x}(a,t) = (h/k)u(a,t)

Physics tells us that if u > 0, then the bar is hottest at x = 0 …

so at the +a end, the temperature is decreasing in the + direction (and at the -a end, the temperature is increasing in the + direction).

In other words, at the +a end, ux is negative. :wink:

Does that help? :smile:
 
If u_{x} is negative in the +x direction at x=+a that means that there should a negative sign in front of the h/k, otherwise that side of the equation wouldn't be negative, right?
 
(wrong tag! :wink:)
PAR said:
If u_{x} is negative in the +x direction at x=+a that means that there should a negative sign in front of the h/k, otherwise that side of the equation wouldn't be negative, right?

s'right! :biggrin:
 

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