Heat exchanged in Expanding and cooling gas

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The discussion revolves around the heat exchanged in a system involving an expanding and cooling gas, specifically focusing on the application of the first law of thermodynamics. Participants are examining the calculations related to internal energy changes and heat transfer.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are analyzing the original poster's calculations regarding heat exchange and questioning the interpretation of the term "exchanged." There is a discussion about the signs of heat transfer and the implications of the first law of thermodynamics.

Discussion Status

Some participants have expressed uncertainty about the definitions and signs associated with heat exchange, while others have affirmed the correctness of the original poster's answer. There is an ongoing exploration of whether the textbook solution may contain errors, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants note potential ambiguities in the textbook's wording and the possibility of mistakes within the provided solutions. The discussion reflects a lack of clarity regarding the intended meaning of heat "exchanged."

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For part(b),
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My solution is,
##\Delta E_{int} = Q - W = \frac{3}{2}(P_fV_f - P_iV_i)##
##Q = W + \frac{3}{2}(P_fV_f - P_iV_i)##
##Q = 4000 + \frac{3}{2}((1 \times 10^6)(6 \times 10^{-3}) - (3 \times 10^6)(2 \times 10^{-3})##
##Q = 4000 J##

However, according to the solution b. ##−4000 J##

Can someone please tell me what I did wrong?

Many thanks!
 

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I'm uncertain what would in general be meant by the amount of heat "exchanged" by a system. It could mean the amount gained, the amount lost, or the magnitude of the transfer (so positive). Looks like they intended the amount lost.
 
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Your answer is correct.
 
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haruspex said:
I'm uncertain what would in general be meant by the amount of heat "exchanged" by a system. It could mean the amount gained, the amount lost, or the magnitude of the transfer (so positive). Looks like they intended the amount lost.
Thank you for your reply @haruspex!

If they intended for the amount lost, why dose the first law in my answer give the wrong sign? If you don't know, please don't worry about it, this textbook dose have a lot of mistakes!

Many thanks!
 
Chestermiller said:
Your answer is correct.
Thank you for your reply @Chestermiller ! That is reassuring. Do you please know whether the reason I am correct is because the textbook solution is wrong?
 
ChiralSuperfields said:
Thank you for your reply @Chestermiller ! That is reassuring. Do you please know whether the reason I am correct is because the textbook solution is wrong?
Obviously
 
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Chestermiller said:
Obviously
Thank you for your help @Chestermiller !
 

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