Heat propagation in radiating surface

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the propagation of heat in a material exposed to sunlight in a vacuum, specifically considering the application of the Stefan-Boltzmann law for radiation absorption and emission. Participants explore the theoretical and numerical approaches to solving this problem, which involves a one-dimensional material with one end illuminated and the other insulated.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to understand how to calculate heat flow in a material under sunlight exposure, noting the challenges of applying the Fourier heat equation without fixed temperature boundaries or convection.
  • Another participant suggests that for a material with thickness much greater than the wavelength of sunlight, a simpler approach may be possible without needing an eigenvalue problem, proposing Fourier analysis or approximations based on the Raleigh-Jeans or Wien's law.
  • A participant expresses concern about overcomplicating the problem and indicates a desire to simplify their approach.
  • Jairo Amaral emphasizes the importance of understanding the distribution of radiated power based on emission angles and the surrounding temperature, suggesting that a comprehensive integral may be necessary for a complete solution.
  • One participant provides a formula related to heat flux and suggests considering a unit area for simplification, referencing existing examples of sunlight interaction with Earth using the Stefan-Boltzmann law.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to solve the problem, with multiple competing views and suggestions for methods remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the problem, including the need for assumptions about the material's shape, the surrounding temperature, and the angle of sunlight incidence. There are also references to potential numerical solutions, but no specific methods are agreed upon.

Jairo Amaral
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I would like to know how heat would flow in a material being struck by sunlight in vacuum. The usual examples of Fourier heat equation always uses boundaries with fixed temperature or under convection. How do I calculate this when the surface is absorbing and emitting radiation according to Stephan-Boltzmann law?

I'm considering a 1-dimensional material in vacuum, with one ending being lit, and the other being insulated. Is the analytical solution too hard to be pratically solved? If yes, do you know some source for computing this numerically? If no, do you know some source that shows this solution?

This problem seems simple, but I've tried internet, teachers and books for some days, and I've still found nothing.

Thanks.
 
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A great question. What first comes to mind is that for a material of thickness d>>lambdasunlight and relatively finite time, the heat of sunlight (for ultraviolet or infrared divergence) may not need strict representation in an eigenvalue problem, and gives a constant specific heat in this visual range. If d~lambdasunlight, then I would try an approximation technique, like using Fourier analysis on either the Raleigh-Jeans approximation or a form of Wien's law.
 
Sorry if I made the problem too complicated. It should be easier. I'll try to figure it out.
 
Jairo Amaral:
I would like to know how heat would flow in a material being struck by sunlight in vacuum.
It seems simple.

I think the problem is knowing how the radiated power is distributed in function of the angle of emission. I don't know the answer.
And you have to know the temperature of the "universe" ( where there is no sun ).
And you have to know the shape of the material.
Once you know all this, just make a big integral.


If the material is very near to the sun ( the material sees the sun at all angles ) the temperature will be the same.
 
Jairo,

q=-k grad (T)=-k grad (W/s)1/4

where q is the heat flux per unit time, k is the thermal conductivity, T is temperature, W is the radiant emittance of a blackbody, and the Stefan-Boltzmann constant s=5.67 x 10-12 watts cm-2 deg-4.

It's a start. You may want to consider this for a unit area and flat surface (your one dimensional simplification).

The internet has examples of "sunlight striking Earth" using the "Stefan-Boltzmann law" and the "Heat Equation" or similar combinations of terms.

Again, please forgive my poor attempt.
 
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