Heat Transfer of a Dewar Nitrogen Container

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on the heat transfer calculations for a Dewar nitrogen container, specifically addressing the unexpectedly low boil-off rates of liquid nitrogen (LN2). The user employed the heat conduction formula for cylindrical objects and calculated the heat conduction in watts, but found the results inconsistent with practical expectations. Key factors such as the latent heat of LN2 and the density of LN2 were also considered, yet the user consistently obtained boil-off rates of only 1.8 liters per day for a container with an outer radius of 1.05 meters and a height of 2 meters, which is deemed inefficient.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of heat conduction principles and formulas for cylindrical objects
  • Knowledge of latent heat calculations specific to liquid nitrogen (LN2)
  • Familiarity with the properties of LN2, including its density and boiling point
  • Basic thermodynamics, particularly regarding phase changes and heat transfer rates
NEXT STEPS
  • Research advanced heat transfer modeling techniques for cryogenic applications
  • Explore the impact of insulation materials on boil-off rates in Dewar containers
  • Investigate the effects of pressure settings on heat transfer in cryogenic vessels
  • Learn about computational fluid dynamics (CFD) simulations for heat transfer analysis
USEFUL FOR

Engineers, physicists, and researchers involved in cryogenics, thermal management, and the design of Dewar containers will benefit from this discussion.

rikku95
Messages
1
Reaction score
0
TL;DR
Heat Transfer of an Deware Nitrogen Container
Hello guys, :smile:

So like the Titels says I am Trying to get an Approximation of the Heat Transfer which ocours in a Deware container. Unfortunately all my calculations so far seem to suggest way to low Boil off rates for my Container its just to efficient, here is a summary of my Attempts.

First of all I got myself the Heat Conduction formula for an Cylindrical Objekt and for a Circle and my heat conduction coefficient.

Unbenannt.png
1565890522802.png


After i calculated the Heat Conduction in Watts,the next step was the Latent Heat of LN2 And the Density of LN2 which is it ;

1565892075765.png


So the Boil off of LN2 form -196 to 21C° in watts is

1565892009981.png
So that´´ s it, after i plug my numbers in i always get way too low Boil off rates for my containers.What did i do wrong?What did I forget?

Heres an Example
1565892134434.png


These are Meters yes, so at an outer radius of 1,05 m and an height of 2 meters only Produces 1,8L/day, i don't think so.

Please help me i am in Great pain :cry:
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
During boil off your vessel Ti will remain constant at -196C because your relief valve pressure setting will keep the vessel pressure constant during that process, so your calculated heat transfer rate into the vessel will also remain constant at that Ti - Ta value.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
6K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 26 ·
Replies
26
Views
4K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
Replies
7
Views
2K
Replies
5
Views
4K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
3K