Heavily Damped Simple Harmonic System - How To Start?

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The problem involves a heavily damped simple harmonic system, where the displacement from equilibrium is expressed in terms of hyperbolic functions. The original poster seeks to demonstrate a specific ratio involving constants derived from the system's parameters.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss starting points, including the differential equation governing the damped harmonic oscillator and the implications of initial conditions on the displacement function.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem, suggesting the use of the differential equation and initial conditions. There is an ongoing exploration of the mathematical relationships involved, but no consensus has been reached on a complete solution.

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The original poster expresses difficulty in starting the problem and requests assistance, indicating a potential lack of familiarity with the underlying concepts or methods. The discussion includes references to specific equations and initial conditions relevant to the problem setup.

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Homework Statement



A heavily damped simple harmonic system is displaced a distance F from its equilibrium positio and released from rest. Show that in the expression for the displacement

[tex]x=e^{-pt}(F\cosh qt + G\sinh qt)[/tex]

where

[tex]p=\frac{r}{2m}[/tex]

and

[tex]q=(\frac{r^2}{4m^2}-\frac{s}{m})^{\frac{1}{2}}[/tex]

that the ratio

[tex]\frac{G}{F}=\frac{r}{(r^2-4ms)^{\frac{1}{2}}}[/tex]


2. The attempt at a solution

I've been thinking and thinking and thinking, but no luck. I'd really appreciate it if someone could just tell me where to start.

Thanks!
phyz
 
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hi phyz,

the differential equation of the damped harmonic oscillator is probably a good place to start...
 
Hi lanedance!

You mean I should simply calculate xdot and xddot and plug them into

[tex]m\ddot{x}+r\dot{x}+sx=0[/tex]

?

Let me give it a go :smile:
 
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[tex]x'(t)= -pe^{-pt}(F\cosh qt+ G\sinh qt)+ e^{-pt}(qF\sinh qt+ qG\cosh qt)[/tex]

Since it is released from rest, we have
[tex]x'(0)=-pF+ qG= 0[/tex]
That should be enough.
 
HallsofIvy said:
[tex]x'(t)= -pe^{-pt}(F\cosh qt+ G\sinh qt)+ e^{-pt}(qF\sinh qt+ qG\cosh qt)[/tex]

Since it is released from rest, we have
[tex]x'(0)=-pF+ qG= 0[/tex]
That should be enough.

Thank you! That did the trick :smile:
 

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