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The discussion revolves around a scenario where a person attempts to pull a heavy cart that does not move. Participants explore the implications of energy expenditure in this context, particularly focusing on the concepts of work, energy conversion, and physiological effects.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants question the nature of energy expenditure when no mechanical work is done, discussing whether energy is converted to heat or stored as potential energy. Some explore the physiological aspects of muscle contraction and energy use.

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The discussion is active, with participants raising questions about the relationship between energy expenditure and mechanical work. Some have offered insights into physiological responses, while others are probing deeper into the implications of energy use without movement.

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There is an emphasis on understanding the definitions of work and energy in physics, alongside considerations of human physiology. The scenario involves a heavy cart and the challenges of moving it, which may influence the discussion's direction.

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A person is sitting in a heavy cart with wheels. The person pulls a rope attached to a rigid support, but the cart does not move. Where does the energy expended by the person go?

Is it converted into heat or stored somewhere as potential energy, please clarify?
 
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What energy? If the cart doesn't move, no displacement -> no work done.

He gets tired, sure, but that's his problem. He might as well use a pulley and attach mass to the rope so that it pulls on the rope with the same force. Same effect but now the guy doesn't get tired. No mechanical work is done.
 
''He gets tired, sure, but that's his problem. ''

This is precisely what I meant to ask...

What happens to the energy expended by the person [sure he expends some energy as he feels exhausted] as there is no work done.

To put it in other words, try to lift a very heavy load off the ground [which you cannot say about 500 kg] and please clarify where do your 'efforts' to lift go. Some mechanical energy must be lost by you in form of movement of muscles [if you are really trying to lift]...
 
damitr said:
What happens to the energy expended by the person [sure he expends some energy as he feels exhausted] as there is no work done.
Galileo is correct that no mechanical work is done on the cart or support, since neither moves. You seem to realize that energy is being used though. What do you think happens to the energy expended? And where does that energy come from, for that matter?
 
damitr said:
A person is sitting in a heavy cart with wheels. The person pulls a rope attached to a rigid support, but the cart does not move. Where does the energy expended by the person go?

Is it converted into heat or stored somewhere as potential energy, please clarify?

This is an excellent question, by the way.

To answer this properly, one must start thinking about physiology...What happens when muscles are kept contracted...
 
Can you expend Calories without doing any work?
 
Firestrider said:
Can you expend Calories without doing any work?

Yes you can expand calories without doing any mechanical work. However, as nrqed says, if you look at physiology you see that heat is generated when muscles contract, heat is a form of energy and hence thermal work is done.

-Hoot:smile:
 

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