Height of Hill with Potential and Kinetic Energy

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a child and sled sliding down a frictionless hill, with the goal of determining the height of the hill using principles of potential and kinetic energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conservation of energy, calculating kinetic energy at the bottom of the hill, and potential energy at the top. Questions arise about how to find the height and the definitions of energy at different points.

Discussion Status

Some participants have successfully calculated kinetic energy at both the top and bottom of the hill, while others are exploring the implications of energy conservation. There is a recognition of the need to solve for height, and guidance has been provided regarding the definitions of potential energy.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the potential energy at the top is dependent on an unknown height, and there is discussion about the reference point for potential energy calculations.

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Homework Statement


A child and sled with a combined mass of 50.0 kg slide down a frictionless hill. If the sled starts from rest and has a speed of 12.0 m/s at the bottom, what is the height of the hill?


Homework Equations


KE = 1/2 m v^2
PE = mgh

The Attempt at a Solution


KE = 1/2 (50.0) (12.0^2)
KE = 3600 N

No idea what to do. :(
 
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How much potential/kinetic energy do you have at the top of the hill?

How much potential/kinetic energy do you have at the bottom of the hill?

Remember, energy is conserved.

Kt + Pt = Kb + Pb
 
Well at the top:

KE = 1/2*(50.0)*(0)
KE = 0 N

PE = (50.0)*(9.8)*H <-- Need to find this... So I guess I can't do PE.

Bottom:

KE = 1/2*(50.0)*(12.0^2)
KE = 3600 N

Again, you can't do PE because you don't know H...
 
You were able to find the correct kinetic energy at the bottom and top of the hill. (It's in Joules, not Newtons). Energy is conserved throughout the intial and final states.

mgh + 0 = 3600J + 0,

Solve h.
 
According to that,

H = 3600 J / ((9.8 m/s^2)*(50.0 kg))
H = 7.35 m

Is Pb = 0 because the height would equal 0 m?
 
This is right, it is just defined as a zero point for calculation purposes. The real zero would be at the Earth's center of course.
 
Thank you both. On to my next problem... :(
 

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