Heisenberg's uncertainty principle

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The discussion revolves around the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, specifically estimating the uncertainty in the momentum of an electron confined within a defined spatial region. The problem involves understanding the implications of the uncertainty relation in quantum mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the uncertainty relation and question the removal of a factor of one half in the equation presented by the teacher. There is also a mention of a diagram indicating a length restriction in the y direction, prompting further inquiry into the implications for the x component of momentum.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and the uncertainty principle. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the quantum state and the potential implications of the particle being confined within a potential well.

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There are indications that the problem may be vague, and the assumptions regarding the confinement of the electron and the nature of the potential are under scrutiny. The discussion highlights the complexity of estimating uncertainties in quantum mechanics.

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Homework Statement


So here's the question

An electron is confined within a region of width 1 X 10^-10 meters.
Estimate the uncertainty in the x component of the electrons momentum


Homework Equations


ΔPΔx\geq(1/2)(h/2pi)



The Attempt at a Solution


The problem appears pretty straight forward. But my teacher has the solution as using the equation
ΔPΔx\geqh/2pi
So I'm lost as to why he got rid of the one half. I looked at the problem thinking, oh this is simple, and then after seeing that he did that I literally have no idea where to start. Can someone explain?
 
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i should add, there is a diagram that shows the length restriction on the electron to be in the y direction
 
The point is that the Heisenberg uncertainty relation is valid for any quantum state of the particle. It reads
\Delta x \Delta p \geq \frac{\hbar}{2}.
One can also show that the only (pure) states, were the equality sign holds are Gaussian wave functions.

Here the question is a bit different. It says "the particle is constraint within a region of 10^{-10} \; \mathrm{m}". A bit idealized this means it's trapped in a potential pot with infinitely high walls on an interval of this length.

Unfortunately the question is very vague, and the answer is not unique. What might be behind the question is to estimate the above uncertainty product for the bound states of the so trapped particles in the potential pot (of course with infinitely high walls, there are only bound-state solutions of the energy-eigenvalue problem).

So I guess, what's supposed to be done is to evaluate the energy eigensolutions and then (falsely, but that's another pretty subtle issue!) to assume that the momentum operator is given by the usual expression \hat{p}=-\mathrm{i}\hbar \mathrm{d}_x and evaluate the standard deviation for both position and momentum for the particle in the energy eigenstates and check the uncertainty relation.
 

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