Helix - Variable Diameter with constant Pitch

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding an equation for a helix that varies in diameter while maintaining a constant pitch. Participants explore the mathematical representation of such a helix and consider whether the concept of "thinness" can be integrated into the model.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the possibility of a helix with variable diameter and constant angle of coils, expressing a non-expert interest in the mathematical process.
  • Another participant suggests a parametrization involving functions for radius and angle, indicating that this could describe a helix with constant spacing along the z-axis and variable radius.
  • A subsequent reply questions the interpretation of "thinness" in the context of the original post, suggesting that the inquiry may pertain to a physical 3-dimensional coil rather than just a mathematical curve.
  • Another participant proposes that the original question may actually seek a helical surface rather than a simple helix.
  • One participant offers a modification to the earlier parametrization, suggesting a specific function for radius in relation to height, which could address the concept of "thinness."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing interpretations of the original question, with some focusing on the mathematical representation of a helix and others suggesting a broader concept of a helical surface. No consensus is reached regarding the exact nature of the inquiry or the best approach to modeling it.

Contextual Notes

There is ambiguity regarding the definition of "thinness" and how it relates to the diameter of the helix. The discussion also reflects varying levels of mathematical expertise among participants, which may influence the proposed solutions.

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Im trying to find an equation for a helix that gets wider and thinner yet the angle of all the coils remains constant.

Is this possible? Any ideas?

Thank you!
PS - I am not a math expert, but throughly enjoy the process!
walt
 
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Well, you might look at parametrizations of the form:
x=r(t)\cos\theta(t),y=r(t)\sin\theta(t),z=k\theta(t)
where k is a constant, and r(t),\theta(t) are functions of t, r(t) being non-negative, and \theta(t) a strictly increasing function.
 
arildno said:
Well, you might look at parametrizations of the form:
x=r(t)\cos\theta(t),y=r(t)\sin\theta(t),z=k\theta(t)
where k is a constant, and r(t),\theta(t) are functions of t, r(t) being non-negative, and \theta(t) a strictly increasing function.

This certainly describes a helix with constant spacing along the z-axis with variable radius, addressing the concern of a helix that gets wider, but what about the OP's question of "thinness"? I don't really know what I mean by this, perhaps he is envisioning a physical 3-dimensional coil rather than the curve you suggested.
 
Well, in that case, he's after a helical surface, rather than a helix.

He didn't ask about that.
 
Actually, I think arildno answered the question anyway.

Just replace r(t)=r(k \theta (t) ) where r(z) is any positive function describing the radius of the helix (or "thinness" of it) as related to its height (z)
 

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