Hello, I need some clarification with my lab report

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The discussion revolves around a lab report concerning energy conservation in a pendulum system. The original poster seeks clarification on how to calculate the percent of energy lost during the experiment and how to properly conclude their report, particularly regarding the relationship between kinetic and potential energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the conversion of kinetic energy to potential energy in the context of a pendulum. There are questions about the correct application of energy formulas and how to incorporate the mass of the pendulum in calculations. The original poster expresses confusion about using initial velocity and height in their calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the relationships between kinetic and potential energy, suggesting that the kinetic energy at the bottom of the swing can be equated to the potential energy at the top. However, there remains uncertainty about specific calculations and assumptions, particularly regarding the mass of the pendulum and how to derive height from the angle and length of the pendulum.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions confusion regarding their teacher's expectations for the report, particularly about including personal opinions on the experiment's success based on results. There is also a reference to an attachment with equations that may not be fully discussed in the thread.

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Would it be possible for someone to look over the parts of my lab report. If there is anything that I did not mention in the abstract, please inform me. I wasn't sure how I should end the paragraph. My teacher wants us to write our opinion on the success of the experiment (supported by results) but I am still confused about some of the questions. Specifically, I need help with calculating the percent of energy lost in the system.

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In a homework problem, I understood that kinetic energy is transferred to potential energy with rotational momentum conserved and that from that height can be derived. I don't know how to find that kinetic energy for the pendulum. I know that to find initial kinetic energy, I add the kinetic energy of both objects (1/2 mv^2) and to find final kinetic energy, I would use the final velocity of the mass (1/2(m1 + m2) * Vfinal = Kfinal. However, I don't believe that the same formula is used to find the potential energy for the experiment.
Thank you
-M.S
 

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For the pendulum you assume that the kinetic energy at the bottom (just after it caught the ball and the ball came to rest in the cradle) is converted to the potential energy at the top of the swing.
 
Thank you for replying.
I understand that I can set the kinetic energy at the bottom to the potential energy at the swing but I would need to use
K(initial) = 1/2 (mass of ball + Mass of pendulum) * v^2(initial)
K(final) = (mass of ball + Mass of pendulum) * 9.81 * height ?

How can I use the height that was calculated with the initial speed of the ball. I have the velocity of the ball as it is released, but then I have the kinetic energy. Then I set that equal to the kinetic energy of the pendulum and the ball.
1/2(mass of ball) * velocity of ball^2 = 1/2(mass of ball + mass of pendulum) * velocity of both objects^2
I found find the velocity of both the objects and then set it equal to the potential energy to find the height?
 
The Ki would not include the mass of the pendulum since it is initilally stationary isn't it?
Can't you calculate the height with the angle and length of the pendulum?
The percentage lost would then be ΔK/Ki x 100
 

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