Help a Quantum Noob with the Wavefunction Collapse?

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of wave function collapse in the double slit experiment and its relation to measurement. The conversation also touches on the different interpretations of Quantum Mechanics, with a mention of the Copenhagen Interpretation and its potential conflicts with paradoxes such as "Schrodinger's Cat". The conversation concludes with a reference to a response on a forum discussing the avoidance of collapse-based interpretations in QM.
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If matter goes from a superposed state to a collapsed state when measured, how did scientists see the interference pattern in the double slit experiment, doesn't the surface that the photons hit after passing through the slits count as a measuring device?

Also, is there any updated Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics aside from the Copenhagen Interpretation that doesn't conflict with paradoxes like "Schrodinger's Cat"?
 
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Wave function collapses into the eigen state of the measurement operator. If you try to detect which path the particle took, these are your eigen states. For the detector showing interference patterns, the eigen states are completely different. That's the measurement of particle's position at the screen, rather than at the slits. Different operators, different eigen states, different collapse.

But yeah, the state still does collapse due to the measurement. It's just that every state to which it collapses still involves particle going through both slits.
 
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Meddle said:
If matter goes from a superposed state to a collapsed state when measured, how did scientists see the interference pattern in the double slit experiment, doesn't the surface that the photons hit after passing through the slits count as a measuring device?

Also, is there any updated Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics aside from the Copenhagen Interpretation that doesn't conflict with paradoxes like "Schrodinger's Cat"?

One wastes less intellectual energy if one avoids collapse-based interpretations of QM.

See my response #4 in this thread:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=460523
 
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Except, you know, things like Quantum Eraser kind of break that concept.
 

1. What is a wavefunction collapse in quantum mechanics?

A wavefunction collapse is a fundamental concept in quantum mechanics where the superposition of a particle's possible states collapses into a single definite state when it is observed or measured.

2. How does a wavefunction collapse occur?

A wavefunction collapse occurs when a quantum system interacts with a measuring device or an observer, causing the superposition of the system's possible states to collapse into a single observed state.

3. What is the role of observation in wavefunction collapse?

The act of observation or measurement is what triggers a wavefunction collapse in quantum mechanics. It is through this interaction that the superposition of a particle's possible states collapses into a definite state.

4. Can wavefunction collapse be reversed?

No, according to the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics, wavefunction collapse is irreversible. Once a system has been observed or measured, its superposition collapses into a definite state and cannot be reversed.

5. How does the concept of wavefunction collapse relate to the uncertainty principle?

The uncertainty principle states that it is impossible to know both the exact position and momentum of a particle at the same time. The concept of wavefunction collapse plays a role in this principle, as the act of measurement or observation causes the collapse of a particle's possible states into a single observed state, making it impossible to know its exact position and momentum simultaneously.

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