Help: Implicit differentiation with initial values

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The discussion revolves around implicit differentiation of the equation 2*y + sin(y) = x^4 + 4(x)^3 + (2π - 5) to find dy/dx. The user successfully differentiated the equation to obtain dy/dx = 16 / (2 + cos(y)), concluding that y must equal π for dy/dx to equal 16 when x = 1. The user initially questioned the necessity of assuming y = π but later realized that their solution was correct. The final expression confirms that dy/dx = 16 when substituting y = π.

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Homework Statement


2*y + sin(y) = x^4 + 4(x)^3 + (2(Pi) - 5), show that dy/dx = 16, when x = 1.


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So I implicitly differentiated it to be dy/dx(2 + cos(y)) = 4(x)^3 + 12(x)^2, and I end up with
dy/dx = 16 / (2 + cos (y)) which means that y must be equal to Pi for this to be true, but I do not think this is where I was supposed to go with this problem. Is there a way to factor or substitute out Cos(y) to show that dy/dx = 16, when x = 1?
 
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[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{4x^3+12x^2}{2+\cos(y)}[/tex]

[tex]2y+\sin(y) = 2\pi[/tex]

[tex]y=\pi \iff 2\pi +\sin(\pi) = 2\pi[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{16}{2+\cos(\pi)}=16[/tex]
 
This is exactly what I had before. Is there any way of making this proof without first implying that y must = Pi?

Edit: I see where the proof comes from. I got it correct without realizing it. Thanks for the help
 
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