Help needed transport problems involving bessel eqn

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The discussion revolves around a heat transfer problem involving a wooden dowel exposed to high-temperature air, specifically focusing on the application of the Bessel equation in the context of unsteady heat conduction in an infinitely long cylinder. The participants explore assumptions, methods, and references related to solving the problem.

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  • One participant outlines the problem involving a wooden dowel and specifies assumptions about radial heat transfer, negligible z-direction transfer, constant wood properties, and zero thermal radiation.
  • Another participant suggests checking the Biot number to determine if conduction within the rod can be ignored, proposing a lumped capacitance approach if applicable.
  • A different participant expresses difficulty in finding references for the specific case of unsteady heat conduction in an infinitely long cylinder and requests assistance in locating relevant literature.
  • A later reply recommends a specific textbook, "Fundamentals of Heat and Mass Transfer" by Incropera and Dewitt, as a potential reference for the problem.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the approach to solving the problem, with differing views on whether to use a lumped capacitance model or a time-dependent solution for the heat equation in cylindrical geometry.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the applicability of certain assumptions, such as the neglect of conduction within the rod and the need for specific references to support their approaches.

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This discussion may be useful for students and professionals interested in heat transfer problems, particularly those involving cylindrical geometries and the application of Bessel functions in thermal analysis.

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Hi everybody... i would like to seek help for the problem below. the assumptions I've considered is that transfer is radial only since it is a very long cylinder (infinitely long) that transfer in z direction is negligible, thermal radiation is zero, and wood properties are constant. Starting from the general energy equation I've come with a form similar to a modified bessel function of zero order but I'm stuck after that. i hope you may be able to help me. thanks a lot in advance.


Problem : Burning of a wooden dowel

In a fire research experiment, a long wooden dowel ( around rod), diameter 1.00 inch, temperature 74°F, is placed in a stream of 1,500°F air. The heat transfer coefficient between gas and surface is 5 Btu/h-ft2-F. Estimate the exposure time up to ignition of the rod on the assumption that ignition takes place when the surface temperature reaches 750°F.
Wood Properties at 74°F
Ρ= 50 lb/ft3
k = 0.10 Btu/h-ft-F
cp = 0.6 Btu/lb-F

assume that the wood properties are constant up to 750°F. Neglect the possible role of thermal radiation.
 
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Hi aelisha1079, welcome to PF. I would check first if conduction within the rod can be ignored (i.e., calculate the Biot number). If it can, then a lumped capacitance approach can be used. If not, then the standard approach is to start with the time-dependent solution for the heat equation in cylindrical geometry; there's no reason to try to re-derive it.
 
hi mapes! thanks for the reply. I've tried to derive the equation because i can't find a reference with the same case as unsteady heat conduction in an infinitely long cylinder. I would appreciate if you can provide me some referance for the problem. thanks so much
 
Check Incropera and Dewitt's Fundamentals of Heat and Mass Transfer.
 

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