Help on an acceleration problem (Deceleration?)?

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The problem involves a speed skater transitioning from a frictionless surface to a rough patch of ice, where she decelerates from an initial speed of 8.7 m/s to a final speed of 6.0 m/s over a distance of 5.6 m. The focus is on determining her acceleration during this transition.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the time taken to cross the rough patch and question the validity of using constant velocity equations in this context. There is an exploration of the relationship between distance, initial speed, and deceleration.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the need to consider uniform acceleration rather than constant velocity. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity introduced by the skater's deceleration, and references to kinematics equations have been made to assist in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the implications of using different kinematic equations and the assumptions that come with them, particularly regarding the nature of acceleration on the rough ice.

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Homework Statement



A speed skater moving across frictionless ice at 8.7 m/s hits a 5.6 m -wide patch of rough ice. She slows steadily, then continues on at 6.0 m/s.

What is her acceleration on the rough ice?

Homework Equations



(v1-v0)/t

The Attempt at a Solution



So I've attempted to determine the amount of time it takes her to get across the ice by dividing 5.6 m/s to 8.7 m/s getting .64 m/s to cross the rough patch. So the equation I tried was this: (6.0-8.7)/.64 = -7.59 which isn't correct. I'm in need of some help...
 
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But the 8.7 m/s is the speed she moved before she hit the 5.6m patch. So the time taken to cross the patch is not 5.6/8.7.
 
My thought was that since she was moving 8.7 m/s that it would take her less than a second to move across a distance less than 8.7 meters.
 
dranly1 said:
My thought was that since she was moving 8.7 m/s that it would take her less than a second to move across a distance less than 8.7 meters.
That's not necessarily true. It depends on how fast she slows down.

And like klondike mentioned, the t = x/v formula is only valid if she is traveling with a constant velocity. But that's not the case when she is on the rough patch of ice.

When she's on the rough patch of ice, she is traveling with uniform acceleration.

There is another kinematics equation/formula that you can use to solve this directly (or combine two of the other ones solve it that way, but that makes the problem more complicated).

There are some kinematics equations for uniform acceleration found here:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=110015

Physics is a pretty neat area of study, because there are relatively few things that require memorization. That said, this set of kinematics equations for uniform acceleration are one of the exceptions that I strongly recommend that you memorize. You don't have to memorize much in physics, but do memorize these. :wink: (There are 4 kinematics equations for uniform acceleration that should be memorized. Not all of the equations in the link I provided relate to uniform acceleration kinematics.)
 
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