Help please Tricky-Finding the angle reqd. to hit a target

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The problem involves projectile motion, specifically determining the angle required for a bullet to hit a target 980 meters away, considering the effects of gravity. The bullet is shot with a velocity of 490 m/s, and both the gun and target are at the same height.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the decomposition of the bullet's velocity into x- and y-components and the equations governing projectile motion. There are attempts to derive the angle theta using the equations of motion, with some questioning the accuracy of the initial calculations and the assumptions made regarding initial velocities.

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Some participants have provided insights into the equations used and have raised questions about potential errors in the original poster's calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the variables involved, with no explicit consensus reached on the correct angle yet.

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Participants are considering the effects of gravity on the projectile's trajectory and are examining the initial conditions of the problem. There is a noted discrepancy between the original poster's calculated angle and the answer provided in the book, prompting further investigation into the assumptions made.

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Homework Statement



A gun shoots a bullet with a velocity of magnitude 490 m/s. The goal is to hit the target 980 meters away. How high above the target must you aim to correct for gravity? (assume gun and target are same height)



Homework Equations



I worked the problem by first getting the x- and y- component equations for position and velocity. I got the x-position equation at final time T, 980 meters=490cos(theta)*T, solved for T, plugged it into the y-position equation at T, 0=-1/2(9.8)T^2 + 490sin(theta)T.



The Attempt at a Solution



Solving for theta, I got about .115 degrees as the answer. The Book says the answer is 1.15 degrees. What did I do wrong? Thank you!
 
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kwightman said:

Homework Statement



A gun shoots a bullet with a velocity of magnitude 490 m/s. The goal is to hit the target 980 meters away. How high above the target must you aim to correct for gravity? (assume gun and target are same height)

Homework Equations



I worked the problem by first getting the x- and y- component equations for position and velocity. I got the x-position equation at final time T, 980 meters=490cos(theta)*T, solved for T, plugged it into the y-position equation at T, 0=-1/2(9.8)T^2 + 490sin(theta)T.



The Attempt at a Solution



Solving for theta, I got about .115 degrees as the answer. The Book says the answer is 1.15 degrees. What did I do wrong? Thank you!

I think your equations look right. I think they made an error in the final answer. Perhaps they made a simplifying approximation?

Vx = V*Cosθ =490 Cosθ
X = V*t = 980 = 490*Cosθ *t
t = 2/Cosθ

For your Y equation you get that Vy*t = 1/2 g*t2

This yields Vy = V*Sinθ = 1/2 g*t = 1/2 *g *(2/Cosθ ) = g/Cosθ
Solving gives Sinθ Cosθ = Sin(2*θ) = g/490 = 9.8/490 = .02
(Note the identity Sinθ Cosθ = Sin(2*θ))

sin-1(.02) = 1.15 degrees

But that = 2θ,
so I'd say θ = (1.15)/2 degrees = .575 degrees
 
Vy*t = 1/2 g*t^2 can't be right though, because that leaves out the initial y velocity of the bullet, right? I'm thinking it would have to be Vy*t = 1/2 g*t^2 + V(0)sin(theta)
 
kwightman said:
Vy*t = 1/2 g*t^2 can't be right though, because that leaves out the initial y velocity of the bullet, right? I'm thinking it would have to be Vy*t = 1/2 g*t^2 + V(0)sin(theta)

The V*Sinθ term is the Vy term
 
Oh, ok, I get it now. Thank you very much!
 

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