Help solving (complex) simultaneous equations

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The discussion revolves around solving a complex equation involving simultaneous equations for the variables x and θ. The equation incorporates hyperbolic sine and cosine functions, as well as complex numbers, where the original poster seeks to express x and θ in terms of the complex variable y and a real constant a.

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  • The original poster attempts to manipulate the equation by separating it into real and imaginary parts, leading to a system of equations. Some participants question the feasibility of solving for two variables from a single equation, while others clarify that the separation into real and imaginary components provides two equations to work with.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering insights into potential manipulations of the equations. There is a recognition of the complexity of the problem, and suggestions are made to reconsider the arrangement of terms in the equations.

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There is a discussion about the nature of the variables involved, particularly the distinction between real and complex components, which may influence the approach to finding solutions. The original poster expresses difficulty in simplifying the equations, indicating a need for further exploration of the problem's structure.

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I am trying to solving the following complex equation for [tex]x[/tex] and [tex]\theta[/tex]

[tex]a\sinh(2x) e^{-i\theta} + y\sinh^2x e^{-i2\theta} + y^*\cosh^2(x) = 0[/tex]

where [tex]a[/tex] is real constant, [tex]x[/tex] and [tex]\theta[/tex] are also real parameter. [tex]y[/tex] is complex number, [tex]y^*[/tex] is the complex conjugate.

Solve for [tex]x[/tex] and [tex]\theta[/tex] (in terms of y and a)

2. The attempt at a solution
Let
[tex]y = |y| e^{i\varphi}[/tex]

and multiply the equation with [tex]y[/tex]

[tex]ay\sinh(2x) e^{-i\theta} + y^2\sinh^2x e^{-i2\theta} + |y|^2\cosh^2(x) = 0[/tex]

Now let the real part and imaginary part equals ZERO.

[tex] \begin{cases}<br /> a\sinh(2x) |y|\cos(\theta-\varphi) + |y|^2\sinh^2(x)\cos(2\theta-2\varphi) + |y|^2\alpha^2 = 0, \\[3.8mm]<br /> a\sinh(2x) |y|\sin(\theta-\varphi) + |y|^2\sinh^2(x)\sin(2\theta-2\varphi) = 0<br /> \end{cases}[/tex]

I tryied to solve that two days ago, I tried many way to simpliy that but still find no way to get the soluton. Could anyone give me some hints?

Thanks
 
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This doesn't make sense to me. How can you solve one equation for two variables? This seems to me like asking someone to solve y = 2x for x and y. You can solve the equation for y in terms of x, or you can solve for x in terms of y, but you can't solve it simultaneously for both variables.
 
Mark44 said:
This doesn't make sense to me. How can you solve one equation for two variables? This seems to me like asking someone to solve y = 2x for x and y. You can solve the equation for y in terms of x, or you can solve for x in terms of y, but you can't solve it simultaneously for both variables.

How come. This is a equation for complex variable, the real part and imaginary part gives two equations.
 
OK, I see.
[tex]a\sinh(2x) |y|\sin(\theta-\varphi) + |y|^2\sinh^2(x)\sin(2\theta-2\varphi) = 0[/tex]
In your 2nd equation, I think the sine arguments should be the other way around. Also, you can expand [itex]sin(2(\phi - \theta))[/itex] as [itex]2sin(\phi - \theta) cos(\phi - \theta)[/itex]. Then you'll have one factor the same in both terms, which hopefully leaves you with the other factor that you can do something with.
 

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