Help Solving Vectors with Angles - Newbie in Physics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a physics homework problem involving vectors and angles. Participants explore how to set up and calculate the resultant force from given vector components, addressing challenges related to understanding angles and axes in the context of vector addition.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • A participant expresses difficulty in setting up vectors due to confusion with axes and angles, seeking assistance in determining the magnitude and direction of the resultant force.
  • One response suggests ignoring the v-axis for the purpose of finding the angle between F2 and the u-axis, focusing instead on the resultant relative to the u-axis.
  • Another participant questions the necessity of the v-axis, proposing that the angle of F2 to the u-axis might simply be 60 degrees.
  • A participant raises concerns about using sine and cosine for angles that are not standard (30° or 45°), questioning how to apply these functions in their specific case.
  • One response clarifies that sine and cosine can be calculated for any angle between 0-360 degrees, suggesting that the participant may be misunderstanding how to apply trigonometric functions.
  • A participant indicates they understand sine and cosine values for common angles but struggles with the concept of resultant forces lying between the U and V axes, expressing frustration with the diagram's representation.
  • A later reply proposes a method to calculate the resultant by treating the diagram as a mirror image and provides specific vector values to work with, suggesting a structured approach to finding the resultant force.
  • Another participant reports success in solving the problem using the law of cosines and the law of sines, indicating that the process became clearer after applying these methods.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains multiple competing views regarding the use of axes and angles in vector calculations. Participants express differing opinions on the necessity of the v-axis and how to interpret the angles involved, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the application of trigonometric functions to non-standard angles and the interpretation of vector diagrams, highlighting potential limitations in their understanding of vector resolution.

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Hello, first timer here. not sure if this should be in physics section or not.. anywayss

I have this question, 2-4 that i have to do for homework but i can't seem to set up the vectors in the correct way to solve b/c the axis/angles are really throwing me off. I'm new at this trying to learn it. i took a picture since its easier to understand than me trying to describe through words.

please help me determine the magnitude of resultant force and its direction.

sorry for my scribbling on the diagram, and please ignore the lightly shaded lines :) THANK YOU
 

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For your problem, ignore the axis v except for using it to find the angle between F2 and the u-axis. The problem wants you to find the resultant F1 + F2 relative to the u-axis.
 
thanks for the response. so you're saying i need the v-axis to find the angle of F2 to the u-axis? wouldn't that just be 60? i don't see why i'd need the v-axis..
 
basically what i cannot understand is :

if the resultant force is somewhere between the U and V axis, how am i supposed to use sine/cosine when the angle will not be 30* or 45*

thanks
 
Sine and Cosine are defined for angles 0-360 degrees. Are you having problems calculating trig functions? Remember, you are using a computer to post your homework questions. You can calculate sine and cosine directly or find a table of values for these functions.
 
no, i know the values of sin/cos for the commonly used angles. What I am trying to say is while looking at the diagram, wouldn't the resultant force that it is asking me to find the magnitude of, be somewhere between the U and V axis...where angles are not defined? am i just drawing this diagram wrong? for some reason i understand questions involving 3 axis better than these ones that are supposed to be easy...ughhhh
 
Pretend the diagram as shown was actually drawn as a mirror image.
Take Vector F1 = 200 lbs < -45 deg
Vector F2 = 150 lbs < +60 deg

Calculate the horizontal and vertical components of F1 and F2 and find the Resultant.
 
thank you for the response. I put some time into figuring out the correct answer, this comes much easier now. All i had to do was law of cos to solve for Fr then law of sines to figure out the angle. much easier. thank you
 

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