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Power is defined as the rate of doing work or the rate of energy transfer, represented mathematically as P=F*d/t. The discussion clarifies that while force affects velocity, it does not negate the definitions of work and power. For instance, applying a net force of 10 Newtons on a 1kg object over 10 seconds results in a velocity of 100 m/s and requires 5,000 Joules of work, translating to a power output of 500 Watts. The concept of equilibrium is emphasized, noting that no net force results in no work performed on the object, despite energy expenditure by the individual lifting it.

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Power is described as the Velocity at which Force is applied to an object (P=F*d/t)

However, how are the Force and Velocity independent? Doesn't the Force applied affect the Velocity of the object?

For example, let's say you want to lift a 19.62N (2kg*9.81m/s^2) object upwards 1 meter in 1 second. The way I see the problem solved online is that you would need 19.62W = (19.62N*1m/s). However, with this applied Force the object is in equilibrium (and not moving or moving at an arbitrary constant velocity), so the work and power would be zero.

I must have something wrong here. Thanks.
 
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The object gains potential energy as it rises. Gravity can be considered a fictitious force.
 
AllStar said:
moving at an arbitrary constant velocity), so the work and power would be zero.
If it's moving at constant velocity, then the work and power aren't zero.
 
AllStar said:
Power is described as the Velocity at which Force is applied to an object (P=F*d/t)

That's a very bad definition .

There are formal definitions of Power but for practical purposes :

Power is rate of doing work .
or
Power is rate of transfer of energy from a source to a sink .
 
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AllStar said:
Power is described as the Velocity at which Force is applied to an object (P=F*d/t)

However, how are the Force and Velocity independent? Doesn't the Force applied affect the Velocity of the object?

Yes, the force would affect the velocity of the object, but it doesn't matter. That fact is already "built-in" to work and power. For example, applying a net force of 10 Newtons for 10 seconds on a 1kg object:

##a = \frac{f}{m} = \frac{10}{1} = 10 m/{s^2}##
##v = v_0 + at = 0 + 10*10 = 100 m/s##

The distance the object moves over this time period is given by:
##x = x_0 + v_0t + 1/2at^2 = 0 + 0 + 1/2*10*10^2 = 500 m##

The work required to get the object up to 100 m/s is just the same as its kinetic energy.
##k_e = 1/2mv^2 = 1/2*1*100^2 = 5,000 J##

We can also calculate the work done using the force and the distance:
##W = f*d = 10 * 500 = 5,000 J##

Power:
##P = W/t = 5,000/10 = 500 W##

AllStar said:
For example, let's say you want to lift a 19.62N (2kg*9.81m/s^2) object upwards 1 meter in 1 second. The way I see the problem solved online is that you would need 19.62W = (19.62N*1m/s). However, with this applied Force the object is in equilibrium (and not moving or moving at an arbitrary constant velocity), so the work and power would be zero.

You need to use the net force on the object in your calculation. In equilibrium there is no net force and no work is performed on the object by any of the forces. Note that you will still expend energy and perform work on yourself because your body is not a perfectly efficient machine. Your muscles fibers constantly contract and relax just to hold an object at rest, your bones and muscles stretch and bend, the chemical reactions powering your muscles release a lot of energy simply as heat, etc.
 

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