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The discussion revolves around understanding the concept of power in electrical circuits, specifically focusing on how power is drawn from voltage sources and the role of resistance and load impedance in determining power consumption. The scope includes theoretical aspects and practical design considerations for low-power applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the amount of power drawn from a voltage source is purely determined by resistance.
  • Another participant explains that the current drawn depends on both the internal resistance of the power source and the impedance of the load, referencing Ohm's Law.
  • A participant suggests that having a very high load impedance is key to achieving low power consumption, expressing uncertainty about this understanding.
  • Further clarification is provided that minimizing bias currents in active circuits can also contribute to lower overall current consumption, although this introduces additional challenges.
  • It is noted that the power drawn does not need to match the maximum capability of the power source, with examples illustrating how different load impedances affect current and power output.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relationship between load impedance and power consumption, but there is some uncertainty regarding the implications of this relationship and the design considerations for low-power applications. The discussion remains somewhat unresolved as participants express differing levels of comprehension and confidence in the concepts presented.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about ideal conditions versus real-world scenarios are not fully explored, particularly regarding the internal resistance of power sources and the practical implications of minimizing bias currents in circuit design.

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In University we almost always deal with voltage sources that can supply whatever current needed. What determines the amount of power "drawn", is it purely the resistance? How do we design for low-power?
 
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The current drawn from a power source depends on the internal resistance of the power source and the impedance of the load.

So, you don't have to design for low power. If you put a 1000 ohm resistor across a 12 V car battery, it will deliver 12 mA even though the battery can deliver hundereds of amps.
(This is Ohm's Law... I = V / R = 12 /1000 = 12 mA.)

The internal resistance of the power source decides the maximum current the supply can deliver. If this is not important, then it is convenient to regard the supply as perfect and assume the voltage will remain stable with varying load currents.
 
So... the key to low power is to have a very high load impedance? I don't think I'm comprehending this correctly.
 
HydroGuy said:
So... the key to low power is to have a very high load impedance?

Yes, per Ohm's law.

And for active circuits, you try to minimize the bias currents, in order to minimize overall current consumption. That brings on a host of issues, however.

Here's an intro article with lots of links to other references:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-power_electronics

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So... the key to low power is to have a very high load impedance?

Yes, exactly. The power actually drawn from a power source doesn't have to be as much as the source is capable of.
A car battery is quite capable of delivering only 1 mA if the load is 12000 ohms. This is only 12 milliwatts!
Or, it could deliver 50 amps if the load was 0.24 ohms. This would be 600 watts. (12 volts * 50 amps = 600 watts).
 

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