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The discussion revolves around visualizing a triangle defined by vectors originating from a common point O. The original poster expresses confusion about how to form a triangle with points A, B, and C represented by vectors a, b, and c, respectively, all starting from the origin.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to understand how vectors can form a triangle when they originate from a single point. They question the necessity of introducing additional lines to visualize the triangle. Some participants discuss the midpoints of segments and express confusion regarding vector direction and addition.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of vector relationships and midpoints. Some guidance has been offered regarding the definitions of position vectors and their directional properties, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach to the problem.

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There are references to specific vector equations and potential discrepancies with textbook answers, indicating a need for clarification on vector operations and their geometric interpretations.

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Homework Statement



I think this must be really easy but I am not getting a visual for this triangle description.

Let ABC be a triangle with \UparrowOA=a and /UparrowOB=b and /UparrowOC = c
Where O is the origin .





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How can I have a triangle ABC where all A,B,C are sides coming from O

The way I'm looking at this is I have a point O, where the lines A,B,C start from ie, A,B,C only have one available endpoint.

So how can these lines make a triangle without introducing a new line??

Clearly, I am imagining things wrong here, I tried drawing it but it still didn't work. Help!
 
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ehild said:
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thank you sir!
 
ehild said:
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Hmm I have a question related to this triangle and it asks

i) If M is the midpoint of the line segment AB and P is the midpoint of the line segment CB express the vectors \vec OM and \vec OP in terms of a,b, and c.

ii) Show that \vec MP is parallel to \vec AC and has half its length.

Ok for part i) the answer is 1/2(b-a), 1/2(b-c), but to me it should be 1/2(b+a), 1/2(b+c)... as if you were to minus a or c does that not imply that you 'attach a/c to the end of vector b or in this case 1/2b and 1/2 (c,a)...
I think the difficulty I am having is understanding the direction in the vector, how do I know which way it is 'pointing' so to speak??

in this situation what would the addition of the vectors look like?

Thanks!
 
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charmedbeauty said:
Hmm I have a question related to this triangle and it asks

i) If M is the midpoint of the line segment AB and P is the midpoint of the line segment CB express the vectors \vec OM and \vec OP in terms of a,b, and c.

ii) Show that \vec MP is parallel to \vec AC and has half its length.

Ok for part i) the answer is 1/2(b-a), 1/2(b-c), but to me it should be 1/2(b+a), 1/2(b+c)... as if you were to minus a or c does that not imply that you 'attach a/c to the end of vector b or in this case 1/2b and 1/2 (c,a)...
I think the difficulty I am having is understanding the direction in the vector, how do I know which way it is 'pointing' so to speak??

in this situation what would the addition of the vectors look like?

Thanks!

If your answer is that \vec{OM} = \frac{1}{2}(a + b) and that \vec{OP} = \frac{1}{2}(b + c),

then you are, in fact, right (and the book is wrong). a, b and c are position vectors - which means they define the positions of points A, B and C respectively with respect to a common origin O. By convention, they *always* point outward from the origin O toward the terminal point. So a = \vec{OA}, etc.
 
Curious3141 said:
If your answer is that \vec OM = \frac{1}{2}(a + b) and that \vec OP = \frac{1}{2}(b + c),

then you are, in fact, right (and the book is wrong). a, b and c are position vectors - which means they define the positions of points A, B and C respectively with respect to a common origin O. By convention, they *always* point outward from the origin O toward the terminal point. So a = \vec OA, etc.

OK just wanted to clear that up yeah in the book the have 1/2(b-a),1/2(b-c)... thanks for the quick reply! Keep it ℝeal!
 

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