Help with Calculating 2 mole N2 + H2 = dcm3NH3

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The discussion centers around calculating the volume of ammonia (NH3) produced from the reaction of 2 moles of nitrogen (N2) with an equivalent amount of hydrogen (H2). The scope includes homework-related problem-solving and chemical reaction principles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant attempts to calculate the volume of NH3 using the equation V = n x Vm, suggesting a result of 44.82 dm3, but expresses uncertainty about its correctness.
  • Another participant suggests that the initial approach is flawed and emphasizes the need to identify the limiting reagent in the reaction, implying that the stoichiometry of the reaction must be considered.
  • A clarification is made that the original poster was referring to volume, not mass, which indicates a misunderstanding of the initial response.
  • A further response reiterates the importance of starting with the correct chemical reaction and notes that the volume of gas produced is influenced by pressure and temperature, referencing the ideal gas law (PV=nRT).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach to the problem. There are competing views on how to calculate the volume of ammonia produced, with some emphasizing the need to consider limiting reagents and others focusing on direct volume calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the assumptions regarding the reaction conditions, such as pressure and temperature, which are necessary for applying the ideal gas law. Additionally, the misunderstanding regarding the meaning of "dcm3" has not been clarified in the context of the discussion.

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This discussion may be useful for students studying chemical reactions, particularly those learning about stoichiometry, gas laws, and the concept of limiting reagents in chemical equations.

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Homework Statement


How much dcm3NH3would we get if 2 mole of N2 react with the same amount of H2


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I tried this n=V/Vm then get V=n x Vm then get 2 mole x 22.41 dm3 x mole -1then get 44.82 dcm3 but i don't now if it is right so any help would be great


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If by dcm^3 you mean mass (d=m/v --->dv=m?) then you don't need to do all the stuff you wrote down. You need to write down the chemical reaction because the synthesis of ammonia will have a limiting reagent (I'll let you figure that out for yourself). From there you can figure out how many moles of ammonia are made and just use the molar mass to convert to g/Kg of whatever of ammonia.
 
no i was meaning the volume
 
Well regardless of what you are trying to find you need to start the problem the way I explained above. You will not get 2 mol of ammonia when you mix 2 mol of nitrogen and 2 mole of hydrogen because there will be a limiting reagent.

The volume of the gas will depend on the pressure and temperature of the system and number of mols, the relationship is given by PV=nRT. T is temp in Kelvin, and R is the Rydberg constant (0.08206 L Atm/mol K), P is pressure measured in Atm, V is volume measured in L.
 

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