Help with Chemical reactions that make water unstable....

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the exploration of chemical reactions that could induce instability in water, leading to non-equilibrium states or unusual behaviors such as vibration. Participants are seeking examples and mechanisms that could contribute to this phenomenon.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for assistance from chemical engineers regarding reactions that destabilize water.
  • Another participant questions the nature of the instability, referencing the concept of polywater as a potential analogy.
  • A participant suggests that reactions could lead to water exhibiting vibrational behavior or other unusual characteristics.
  • Several examples of substances that could induce instability are proposed, including dry ice, baking powder, and mixtures of dry acids and alkalis.
  • Another participant mentions fluid dynamics concepts, such as the transition from laminar to turbulent flow and specific instabilities in viscous flow scenarios.
  • A participant proposes the addition of anhydrous salts, like copper sulfate, which could interact with water molecules in a destabilizing manner.
  • A suggestion is made to search for information on rotating and oscillating chemical reactions, with a link provided for further exploration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion does not appear to reach a consensus, as participants present various interpretations of "instability" and propose differing examples and mechanisms without agreement on a singular approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully defined the specific type of instability being sought, leading to a range of interpretations and examples that may not align with each other. There are also unresolved assumptions regarding the conditions under which water's stability might be altered.

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I really want some help from chemical engineers

I was just looking for some chemical reactions that can make water unstable

like when we put it in the water the water will move will not be stable or in an equilibrium state

thank you very much
 
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I'm not sure what kind of instability you mean. The question sounds like the polywater science fiction story.
 
something that makes water vibrate or any other behavior
 
Dry Ice (solid CO2)
Baking Powder (any of several, check your grocery store)
Any mixture of a dry acid and a dry alkali (powdered Citric acid and Baking Soda for instance)
 
Transition from laminar to turbulent flow in a pipe.
Transition from laminar to turbulent flow in flow past a flat plate.
Taylor instability in viscous flow between concentric rotating cylinders.
Rayleigh stability in heat transfer from below a fluid contained between horizontal flat plates.
 
how about adding an anhydrous salt, for instance copper sulphate with each molecule removing 7 water molecules?
 

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