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The discussion revolves around a classical mechanics problem involving the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy in a nuclear fragmentation scenario. The original poster presents a situation where a nucleus breaks into two fragments, raising questions about the conservation of momentum in the presence of released internal energy.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to determine if momentum is conserved during the fragmentation process, questioning whether the release of internal energy constitutes an external force. They outline their calculations for kinetic energy and momentum but encounter difficulties in solving for the speed of the lighter fragment.

Discussion Status

Some participants affirm the conservation of momentum in closed systems and clarify the nature of internal forces between the fragments. There is a recognition of a potential typo in the original poster's kinetic energy calculation, which they acknowledge and plan to revisit.

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The problem involves specific mass values and velocities, and assumptions about non-relativistic behavior are noted. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the implications of energy release on momentum conservation.

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Homework Statement


A nucleus of mass 20mu (where mu is the atomic mass unit 1.66*10^-27) is moving with a velocity of 3*10^6 ms^-1 when it breaks into two fragments. In the course of this process internal energy is released from within the nucleus and the kinetic energy consequently increases by an amount \DeltaE=10^-12J. The heavier fragment has mass 16mu and is emitted at 90o to the original line of flight. What is the speed of the lighter fragment? (since the energy released is small compared with the rest-mass energy of the nucleus you may assume that mass is conserved and that both fragments remain non-relativistic)


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The Attempt at a Solution


The part confusing me is whether or not you can assume momentum is conserved, ie. does the release of internal energy count as an "external" force or not? If you assume that momentum is conserved my attempt at the solution is:

Initial KE= 0.5*10mu*(3*10^6)^2 = 1.494*10^-13J
so the final KE of the system is this + 10^-12J which equals 1.1494 * 10^-12J

which means that 16mu*v1^2 + 4mu*v2^2 = 1.1494*10^-12J

Initial momentum of system is 3*10^6*20mu = 9.96*10^-20 kgms^-1

if we say that the nucleus is initially moving to the right, and the larger fragment moves upwards after the "break", the velocity of the smaller fragment would have to be south east.

The vertical component of v2 would equal 16mu*v1 / 4mu so that the overall momentum in the vertical plane remains 0, and the horizontal component would equal 9.96*10^-20 / 4mu (which is 1.5*10^7ms^-1) so that the momentum to the right of the system is the same as before. This means that v2 = \sqrt{}(1.5*10^7)^2+(4muv1)^2 however when you substitute that back into the equation for KE and try to solve for v1 you get a math error as v1^2 = a minus number.


If I am wrong with assuming that momentum is conserved then I am unsure as to how to go about solving this problem as surely the change in momentum could be in any direction and so it would not be possible to work out the speed of the smaller fragment.


Any ideas?
 
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Momentum is always conserved in a closed system-that is, if there are no external forces that could effect the situation. Hope that helps!
 
Momentum is indeed conserved. The force that one fragment exerts on the other is equal and opposite to the force that is exerted on it by the other. The two forces are internal to the two fragment system.

Why do you say that the initial kinetic energy is

KE= 0.5*10mu*(3*10^6)^2 ?

The mass of the parent nucleus is 20mu not 10mu. Would that make a difference?
 
ok well now that I know that for sure I think I'll get there eventually. That was actually just a typo from me but I expect I've just made a mistake somewhere in the calculation and will go over it. Thanks!
 

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