Help with projectile motion, finding x

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a projectile motion problem involving a mortar firing at a balloon attached to a 3m high pole. The mortar's initial velocity is 7m/s at an angle of 55 degrees, and participants are trying to determine the horizontal distance required to hit the balloon.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of a quadratic equation derived from the projectile motion formula and question the validity of their calculations. There are attempts to verify the results by substituting values back into the equation. Some participants express confusion regarding the maximum height achievable by the projectile and whether it can reach the height of the balloon.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with some participants offering insights about the projectile's inability to reach the required height and others questioning their calculations. There is a recognition of potential errors in the original poster's approach, but no consensus has been reached on the correct interpretation of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem's parameters, including the initial velocity and angle of projection, and are grappling with the implications of these values on the projectile's trajectory.

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Homework Statement


A balloon is attached to a 3m high pole. On the ground is a mortar that fires at a velocity of 7m/s at an angle of 55degrees. How far away does the mortar have to be to hit the balloon?

Homework Equations


y=tan(theta)x-g/(2v0cos2(theta)x2[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


I rearranged to make a quadratic equation from the equation above and made

g/(2v0cos2(theta)x2 - tan(theta)x+y=0

-9.81m/s2/(2*(7m/s)2(cos2(55deg)x2 - tan(55)x+3m

and ended up with 1.58m and -6.34m

I understand that there will be two solutions because the projectile can hit the balloon on the way up and the way down but i don't think these answers are correct.
 
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You seem to have a sign error. However, with the given numbers, I find there's no solution.
 
in my lecture the correct answer was something like 1.9 or something and i forget the other one but when i plugged my answer 1.58 back into y=tan(theta)x-g/(2vcos^2(theta)x^2 it comes out as the right y value - 3m.

is there a chance I am using the completely wrong equation for this?
 
You're using the right equation. Here's a plot of the trajectory with the given numbers. The projectile never reaches a height of 3 m.
 

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navm1 said:
in my lecture the correct answer was something like 1.9 or something and i forget the other one but when i plugged my answer 1.58 back into y=tan(theta)x-g/(2vcos^2(theta)x^2 it comes out as the right y value - 3m.
When I plug in x=1.58 m, I get y=1.50 m.
 
I feel a little lost then. so for a projectile firing at 7m/s at 55 degrees trying to hit a balloon 3m in the air, it will never actually hit it?
 
Right. It's not going fast enough to reach a height of 3 m when it's aimed at 55 degrees off the horizontal. In fact, even if you shot it straight up, it wouldn't reach that height.
 
im following now. max height is 1.68m if i worked it out correctly so perhaps my notes are wrong. I'll compare notes with a friend and post again. thanks for your help so far
 
I'm not sure how you got that number. There's something weird going on with your calculations.
 
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for max height i used

v0^2sin^2(theta)/2g

72*sin2(55) / 2 * 9.81 = 1.676
 
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Ah, okay, I thought you were referring to shooting the projectile straight up.
 

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