Help with rotational motion work

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The problem involves a billiards ball that is initially at rest and is struck by a cue, leading to a discussion about its motion as it transitions from sliding to rolling without slipping. The subject area is rotational motion and energy conservation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conditions under which the ball begins to roll without slipping and question how to determine the final velocity of the ball's center of mass. There is uncertainty about whether the final velocity is the same as the initial velocity and how energy loss factors into this transition.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have suggested starting points for determining the final velocity, while others are questioning the relationship between translational and rotational motion and the implications for energy loss.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on the mechanics of rolling motion and the role of friction in the energy transfer process. Participants are considering the implications of energy conservation and the moment of inertia provided in the problem statement.

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Homework Statement



A billiards ball of mass M is initially motionless on a table when it is hit by a cue projecting it forward with speed V and no angular velocity. Find the speed of the ball when it eventually begins to roll. Assume the ball does not slip when it begins to roll. What proportion of the original kinetic energy is lost in the process? (The ball’s moment of inertia is 2Ma^2/5.)

Homework Equations



K=0.5mv^2
K=Iω^2
v=ωr

The Attempt at a Solution



k before = 0.5mv^2
after = Iw^2, where w=v/r

so proportion of energy lost = energy lost/original energy

=0.5mv^2-Iw^2 all over 0.5mv^2?

= 1- [itex]\frac{2a^2}{5r^2}[/itex]
 
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I assume they mean for you to find when the ball begins rolling without slipping. How can you find that final velocity of the ball's center of mass?
 
Doc Al said:
I assume they mean for you to find when the ball begins rolling without slipping. How can you find that final velocity of the ball's center of mass?

I'm not sure, is it not the same as the start? or do i take into account energy lost before this?
 
Heisenburger said:
I'm not sure, is it not the same as the start?
How can it be? What causes the ball to rotate is friction, which slows the translational speed as it increases the rotational speed. In the process, mechanical energy is lost.

or do i take into account energy lost before this?
Start by figuring out the final velocity, which will be less than the initial velocity. (There are several ways of doing this.)
 

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