Help with setting up Integrals for volumes

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The discussion revolves around setting up integrals to find the volume of a solid formed by rotating a region bounded by the curves y=x, x=2-y^2, and y=0 around various axes. Participants are exploring the application of different methods for calculating volumes of revolution.

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  • The original poster attempts to set up integrals using the disk and shell methods for different axes of rotation but expresses uncertainty about parts c and d. Some participants question the correctness of the original poster's setup for parts a and b, suggesting the need for adjustments based on the intersections of the curves.

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Participants are actively discussing the setup of integrals, with some providing alternative methods and corrections to the original poster's attempts. There is a recognition of the need to split integrals for certain parts, and guidance has been offered regarding the use of cylindrical shells and the washer method.

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There is mention of the need to find points of intersection between the curves to properly set limits for the integrals. The original poster has indicated they are new to the topic of volumes, which may affect their understanding of the methods discussed.

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Homework Statement



Hi

I am trying to find the volume of a shape.I don't need help to solve, but I would like a hand setting these integrals up. I've only recently started doing volumes, so bear with me.

Using the curves:
y=x
x=2-y^2
y=0

Indicate the method used and set the integrals up (dont have to integrate) that give the volume of the solid by rotating the region around:

a) the x axis
b) the y axis
c) the line x=-2
d) the line y=1


The Attempt at a Solution



a) Use the DISK method, Integrate from 0 > 2

(pi)(y^2) dx

= (pi)(x-sqrt(2-x))^2 dx

b) Use SHELL method from 0 > 2

2(pi)(x)(y)

= 2(pi)(x)(x-sqrt(2-x))

c) and d)

Not totally sure, would I just have to incorporate that line into the formula? That is confusing me.

If someone could let me know if a and b are right, and give some guidance in c and d that would be great.

Thanks
 
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Since the equation for the usual revolution is about x or y = 0 you can just do


\pi \int^b_a (x+2)^2 dy

\pi \int^b_a (y-1)^2 dx
 
are a and b correct though?
 
Well first consider the area bounded by the 3 expressions:

[PLAIN]http://j.imagehost.org/t/0558/math.jpg

y=x, x=2-y^2, y=0

(a) For part a, although you'd normally be able to do a simple disk method, notice that the height of the area bounded by the curves (the radius of rotation) isn't always x=2-y^2, it is also y=x at times. For this reason, your solution to part a is not entirely correct. If you choose to still do simple revolution disk method, you have to split up the integral into two parts, finding where y=x and x=2-y^2 intersect. An alternative method is to use cylindrical shells. and write your integral in terms of y.

1. Find points of intersection (in order to write your limits).
x=2-y^2, x=y (set equal) y=2-y^2 implies y^2+y-2=0 from this simple quadratic we can see that the point of intersection will be (1,1).
As we are using cylindrical shells and rotating about the x-axis, our new limits are :
upper=1
lower=0
2. our integral is now quite easy to set up:
2\pi \int\limits_a^b\ y [f(y)-g(y)] dy
2\pi \int\limits_0^1\ y [(2-y^2)-(y)] dy

(b) For part b you made the same error as in part a, using cylindrical shells in this case means splitting up the integral, which you hadn't accounted for. Use the washer method.
 
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Using the washer method, the area bounded by y=x, x=2-y^2, y=0 rotated about the y-axis generated a volume which can be represented by the following integral:
\pi \int\limits_0^1\ [(2-y^2)^2-(y)^2] dy
 

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