Help with Trigonometric Integrals

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The forum discussion focuses on solving two trigonometric integrals: ∫ 6 csc^3(x) cot(x) dx and finding the length of the curve y = ln(csc x) over the interval π/4 to π/2. For the first integral, the substitution u = csc(x) is recommended, leading to a simplified integral after substituting dx. The second problem involves calculating the length of the curve using the formula L = ∫sqrt(1 + (d(ln(csc x))/dx)^2) dx, which simplifies to ∫ csc(x) dx over the specified limits. Both problems were resolved through strategic substitutions and manipulations.

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Could someone help me with these two problems? I've been at them for an hour, but have very little clue how to go about solving either of them.

Homework Statement



1)∫ 6 csc^3 (x) cot x dx

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



6 ∫ csc^3 (x) dx) / tan x

csc^3 / tan x = csc^3 cot x

cot^2 x = csc^2 x - 1
csc^2 x = cot^2 x + 1

csc x cot x (cot^2 x + 1)

u = csc x
du = - csc x cot x dx

Homework Statement



2)Find the length of the curve: y = ln(csc x), π/4 <= x <= π/2

Homework Equations




The Attempt at a Solution



L = ∫sqrt(1 + (d(ln(csc x))^2) dx from x = π/4 to π/2

d(ln(csc x)/dx = -cot x
(1 + cot x^2) = csc^2

L = ∫ csc x dx from x = π/4 to π/2
 
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everestwitman said:
Could someone help me with these two problems? I've been at them for an hour, but have very little clue how to go about solving either of them.

Homework Statement



1)∫ 6 csc^3 (x) cot x dx

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



6 ∫ csc^3 (x) dx) / tan x

csc^3 / tan x = csc^3 cot x

cot^2 x = csc^2 x - 1
csc^2 x = cot^2 x + 1

csc x cot x (cot^2 x + 1)

u = csc x
du = - csc x cot x dx
...

The two problems are not all that closely related.

It's generally better to post these in separate threads.


For the first problem.

The substitution u = csc(x) is a good choice.

As you noted, du = - csc(x) cot(x) dx .

Solve that for dx and plug that into the integral. Then you'll easily see what's left over to complete the substitution.
 
Thanks. With using your suggestion for a substitution and playing around with the other problem, i have them both figured out.
 

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