Hermitian Operators and the Commutator

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The discussion revolves around the properties of Hermitian operators and the implications of their commutation relations, specifically whether a commutator of zero between a Hermitian operator A and another operator B necessitates that B is also Hermitian.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants explore the relationship between eigenstates and eigenvalues of Hermitian operators, questioning whether the commutation relation implies the Hermiticity of B. Some suggest counterexamples involving functions of Hermitian operators, while others propose specific forms for B, such as B=iA or B=iI.

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The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have provided examples and counterexamples to illustrate their points, contributing to a deeper examination of the topic without reaching a consensus.

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Participants are considering the implications of the commutation relation under the constraints of quantum mechanics and the properties of operators, while also acknowledging the complexity introduced by certain examples.

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Homework Statement


If A is a Hermitian operator, and [A,B]=0, must B necessarily be Hermitian as well?


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The Attempt at a Solution

 
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njcc7d said:

Homework Statement


If A is a Hermitian operator, and [A,B]=0, must B necessarily be Hermitian as well?


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


attempt at solution?
 
if Y is an eigenstate of both A and B with respective eigenvalues a and b and respective adjoints (A+) and (B+),

<Y|AB|Y> = <Y|BA|Y>
= <Y|Ab|Y> = <(B+)Y|A|Y>
= b<Y|A|Y> = (b*)<Y|A|Y>

Therefore, b=(b*), and so it follows that B=(B+), or B is Hermitian.
 
njcc7d said:
if Y is an eigenstate of both A and B with respective eigenvalues a and b and respective adjoints (A+) and (B+),

<Y|AB|Y> = <Y|BA|Y>
= <Y|Ab|Y> = <(B+)Y|A|Y>
= b<Y|A|Y> = (b*)<Y|A|Y>

Therefore, b=(b*), and so it follows that B=(B+), or B is Hermitian.

counter example:

consider a hermitian operator H. H commutes with any function of H.

For example, the function
[tex] U=e^{-iHt}\;.[/tex]

Does U commute with H?

Is U hermitian?
 
Much easier: how about B=iA?
 
fair enough. thank you for answering my question, though that makes the problem a little more complicated... i hate it when that happens.
 
Or the easiest of all: B=iI (with I the identity) :-)
 

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