Hibbeler 12-210: Solving Constraint Equations

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The discussion revolves around understanding constraint equations in a mechanics problem involving two blocks, A and B, and their movement relative to each other. The participants are examining the relationship between the distances moved by each block and the total distance, d, they must cover together.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the implications of superposition in the movement of blocks A and B, questioning how their individual movements relate to the total distance d. There is also a discussion about the definitions of the variables sa and sb, and whether they should be considered as absolute distances or changes in distance.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and questioning the definitions used in the problem. There is recognition of the need for clarity regarding the measurements of sa and sb, and how they relate to the overall distance d. Some participants suggest that the definitions may be misleading, while others affirm that the method still yields correct results despite potential ambiguities.

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There is an ongoing debate about the definitions of the variables sa and sb, particularly in relation to their reference points and whether they should be treated as absolute distances or changes in distance. The constraints of the problem and the definitions used in the text are under scrutiny.

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How is sa + sb = d at any stage of motion (circled in the attachment)?
 

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Pretend just block A moves (B is at rest). Then isn't it obvious A has to move d=3 meters? So sa = d, sb = 0.

Pretend only block B moves. Isn't it obvious block B has to move 3m since A is stationary and d is the distance from the left side of A to the left side of B. So sb = 3 and sa = 0.

So by superposition, if they can both move, sa + sb = d.
 
Thank you, it makes sense that A and B together must travel a distance of 3m so that the right end of B is at the left end of A. However isn't sb+sa misleading as they're measured from the datum? It should be deltaSa + deltaSb = d ?
 
c0der said:
Thank you, it makes sense that A and B together must travel a distance of 3m so that the right end of B is at the left end of A. However isn't sb+sa misleading as they're measured from the datum? It should be deltaSa + deltaSb = d ?

Very good point! But it looks like in the text on the right they decided to make sa and sb both positive by definition, which as you point out is not what the arrows on the diagram on the left define. So, good point but their method still gives the right answer.

In other words, sb should be negative going by the picture arrows but then superposition is sa + (- sb) = sa - sb. Amounts to same thing.
 
I think they mean dsa and dsb but when you integrate from zero to dsa or zero to dsb, they become sa and sb anyway as it's sa-0, sb-0. Either way it makes sense, thanks for your help
 

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