High & Low Resistivity Effects on Magnetic Field Lines

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The discussion revolves around the effects of high and low resistivity on magnetic field lines within the context of Magnetohydrodynamics (MHD). The original poster seeks to derive equations for the magnetic field under these conditions and describe the implications for the behavior of magnetic field lines.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the need for additional equations to relate electric and magnetic fields, suggesting the elimination of current density from the original equations. There is discussion about the implications of high resistivity leading to static magnetic fields and low resistivity resulting in frozen-in field lines.

Discussion Status

Several participants have offered insights into the mathematical relationships involved, with some suggesting specific forms of equations that may apply in high and low resistivity limits. There is ongoing exploration of the behavior of magnetic field lines in these contexts, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants note the complexity of the problem and the potential need for assumptions regarding the velocity field of the plasma, particularly in the high resistivity limit. There is also mention of the original poster's struggle with the problem, indicating a lack of prior understanding of the concepts involved.

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Two of the MHD equations can be formulated as

[tex]\vec{E} + \vec{v} \times \vec{B} = \eta \vec{J}[/tex]
[tex]\nabla \times \vec{B} = \mu_0 \vec{J}[/tex]

where [itex]\eta[/tex] is the resistivity of the plasma.<br /> <br /> a.) Derive an equation for the magnetic field at very high resistivity and describe the corresponding consequences for the behaviour of the magnetic field lines.<br /> <br /> b.) Derive an equation for the magnetic field av very low resistivity and describe the corresponding consequences for the behaviour of the magnetic field lines.<br /> <br /> <h2>Homework Equations</h2><br /> The set of Maxwell equations?<br /> <br /> <h2>The Attempt at a Solution</h2><br /> I have no clue. This has been a problem for a week or so, and it's the only one I got left. The only thing I know is that when the resistivity is low, the field is frozen-in to the plasma.<br /> Please help![/itex]
 
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Hmmm... I'm not too familiar with Magnetohydrodynamics, but it seems to me that you might need at least one more equation...

I'd start by eliminating J from your equations, giving you a single realtion involving E and B.

In the limit of extremely high resistivity, you may be able to treat [tex]\frac{1}{\eta}(\vec{E} + \vec{v} \times \vec{B})[/tex] as effectively zero.

In the opposite limit, I think you need another equation in order to eliminate E...Does [tex]\vec{\nabla} \times \vec{E}=\frac{-\partial \vec{B}}{\partial t}[/tex] hold true in MHD? If so, I'd use that to eliminate E.
 
Yeah Faraday's law holds, so maybe

[tex]\frac{\eta}{\mu_0} \nabla^2 \vec{B} - (\nabla \cdot \vec{v})\vec{B} - \frac{\partial \vec{B}}{\partial t} = 0[/tex]

is a correct answer?
But what about the behaviour of the field lines? Could one say that for high resistivity the current is zero and the magnetic field is static, and that for low resistivity the field lines are frozen-in?
 
Logarythmic said:
Yeah Faraday's law holds, so maybe

[tex]\frac{\eta}{\mu_0} \nabla^2 \vec{B} - (\nabla \cdot \vec{v})\vec{B} - \frac{\partial \vec{B}}{\partial t} = 0[/tex]

is a correct answer?

I think you are missing a couple of terms; shouldn't it be:

[tex]\frac{\eta}{\mu_0} \nabla^2 \vec{B} +(\vec{B} \cdot \vec{\nabla})\vec{v}-(\vec{v} \cdot \vec{\nabla})\vec{B}- (\vec{\nabla} \cdot \vec{v})\vec{B} - \frac{\partial \vec{B}}{\partial t} = 0[/tex]

And since you are talking about the low resisitivity limit, you can probably neglect the first term:

[tex](\vec{B} \cdot \vec{\nabla})\vec{v}-(\vec{v} \cdot \vec{\nabla})\vec{B}- (\vec{\nabla} \cdot \vec{v})\vec{B} - \frac{\partial \vec{B}}{\partial t} = 0[/tex]

But what about the behaviour of the field lines? Could one say that for high resistivity the current is zero and the magnetic field is static, and that for low resistivity the field lines are frozen-in?

Well, I'm not really sure what the field lines look like in the low resistivity limit, but you could try plotting the solution to the above PDE to see.

EDIT: You can probably make some assumptions about the velocity field of the plasma in the high resistivity limit that will simplify the PDE further.

As for the high resistivity limit, don't you have

[tex]\vec{\nabla} \times \vec{B} \approx 0[/tex]

That should tell you something about the field lines.
 

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