Higher order differential equations and the chain rule (2 variables)

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The discussion focuses on the application of the chain rule to compute the second derivative of the function F(r, θ) = f(x(r, θ), y(r, θ)), where x(r, θ) = r cos(θ) and y(r, θ) = r sin(θ). The participants derive the first derivative dF/dθ using the chain rule, resulting in ∂F/∂θ = -r sin(θ) ∂f/∂x + r cos(θ) ∂f/∂y. They then proceed to find the second derivative ∂²F/∂θ², applying the chain rule again to the first derivative, leading to a more complex expression involving second derivatives of f. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the chain rule in multivariable calculus.

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Homework Statement



The function F is defined by F (r, θ) = f (x(r, θ), y(r, θ)), where f is twice continuously
differentiable and
x(r, θ) = r cos θ, y(r, θ) = r sin θ.
Use the chain rule to find

d2F/dθ2

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The Attempt at a Solution



I know that dF/dθ = (df/dx)(dx/dθ) + (df/dy)(dy/dθ)
and i can solve this

I know the next step is (d/dθ)(dF/dθ) but this is were i get lost. I must of missed the class this was explained in :(
 
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\frac{\partial F}{\partial \theta}= \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}\frac{\partial x}{\partial \theta}+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\frac{\partial y}{\partial \theta}

Since x= r cos(\theta), y= r sin(\theta), x_\theta= -r sin(\theta) and y_\theta= r cos(\theta)

So
\frac{\partial F}{\partial \theta}= - r sin(\theta)\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}+ r cos(\theta) \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}
which, I presume, is what you got.

Now,
\frac{\partial^2 F}{\partial \theta^2}= \frac{\partial}{\partial \theta}\left(\frac{\partial F}{\partial \theta}\right)

But the formula
\frac{\partial \phi}{\partial \theta}= \frac{\partial \phi}{\partial x}\frac{\partial x}{\partial \theta}+ \frac{\partial \phi}{\partial y}\frac{\partial y}{\partial \theta}
is true for any function, \phi and, in particular, for
\phi= \frac{\partial F}{\partial \theta}= - r sin(\theta)\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}+ r cos(\theta) \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}


That is,
\frac{\partial^2 F}{\partial \theta}= \frac{\partial}{\partial \theta}\left(-r sin(\theta)\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}+ r cos(\theta)\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\right)
+ \frac{\partial}{\partial\theta}\left((-r sin(\theta)\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}+ r cos(\theta)\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\right)
= - r cos(\theta)\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}- r sin(\theta)\frac{\partial}{\partial \theta}\left(\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}\right)
- r sin(\theta)\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}+ r cos(\theta)\frac{\partial}{\partial \theta}\left(\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\right)

This is getting awkward to write as a single formula so just note that you do
\frac{\partial}{\partial \theta}\left(\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}\right)
and
\frac{\partial}{\partial \theta}\left(\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\right)
using that same "chain rule formula":
\frac{\partial}{\partial \theta}\left(\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}\right)
= -r sin(\theta)\frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial x^2}+ r cos(\theta)\frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial x\partial y}
and
\frac{\partial}{\partial \theta}\left(\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\right)
= r cos(\theta)\frac{\partial f}{\partial x\partial y}- r sin(\theta)\frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial y^2}
 
Thanks for that, I know it must of taken a while to write out.
I had a good look at it there now but some parts still don't make sense to me. I'll have another look at it tomorrow with fresh eyes :)
 

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