Homework questions dealing with tangent planes and normal vector

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The discussion revolves around finding equations for tangent planes and normal vectors in the context of calculus, specifically in relation to surfaces defined by functions. The original poster presents two questions involving the calculation of tangent planes and normal lines for given surfaces at specified points.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the equations for the tangent plane and normal line for a logarithmic surface and a hyperboloid. They express uncertainty about the correctness of their answers and seek validation of their work.
  • Some participants suggest methods for finding unit normals and tangent vectors, indicating a focus on the geometric interpretation of the problem.
  • There is a request for clarification on where the original poster's reasoning may have gone awry, highlighting a need for deeper understanding of the concepts involved.

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The original poster indicates a lack of confidence in their solutions and is looking for guidance on specific errors in their reasoning. There may be assumptions or definitions that require further exploration, particularly regarding the properties of tangent planes and normal vectors.

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Hello All,

I need help in my Calc 3 class and I decided to come here for homework help. What I'm looking for is someone to just check my work for a couple of homework problems. I've already done the problems, I would just like my work checked. Anyone who helps, your kindness is greatly appreciated.


Question 1:

Find the equations of the tangent plane and normal line to the given surface at the given point.

z=Log2 (x(y^2)+(x^2)y). So the base of the logarithm function is 2. The point is (1,-2,1)

I rewrote the function as ln(x(y^2) + (x^2)y))/ln(2)

The derivative with respect to x is (y+2x)/((ln2)(xy+x^2))

The derivative with respect to y is (x+2y)/((ln2)(xy+y^2))

The derivative with respect to z is just -1

When you plug in the point (1,-2,1), you get fx=0, fy= -3/((ln2)(2)) and fz=-1

So the equation of the tangent plan is fy(y+2)-(z-1)=0 (it was just easier to use fy instead of the whole expression).

The equation of the normal line is (y+2)/fy=(z-1)/-1, x=1

This is the symmetric equation.


For the second question:

Find the points on the hyperboloid x^2-2y^2-z^2=-2 at which the tangent plane is parallel to the plane 2x-3y+2z+7=0

F(x,y,z)= x^2-2y^2-z^2

The gradient vector for F(x,y,z) is a normal vector for the surface and thus, a normal vector for the tangent plane and for the parallel plane. The gradient vector is:

<2x,-4y,-2z>

so <2x,-4y,-2z>=k<2,-3,3> since <2,-3,3> is a normal vector for the parallel plane.

2x=2k, x=k
-4y=-3k, y=(3/4)k
-2z=2k, z=-k

Plug these values for x,y,z back into the equation for the hyperboloid:

k^2-2((3/4)k)^2-(-k)^2=-2

k^2-(9/8)k^2-k^2=-2

-(9/8)k^2=-2
k=(4/3)

x=4/3
y=1
z=-4/3

The point is (4/3, 1, -4/3)

Can someone tell me here I'm going wrong. I don't think either of these answers are right. Thanks for your help.
 
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To find a unit normal to the surface z=\varphi (x,y), you define the following:

<br /> \phi =z-\varphi (x,y)<br />

Then the normal is given by:

<br /> \hat{\mathbf{n}}=\frac{\nabla\phi}{|\nabla\phi |}<br />

It will be easy to compute tangent vectors from this by just looking for 2 linearly independent orthoganal vectors to the normal, the tangent plane at point \mathbf{r}_{0} is given by:

<br /> (\mathbf{r}-\mathbf{r}_{0})\cdot\hat{\mathbf{n}}=0<br />
 
More simply, two tangent vectors to the surface z= \phi(x,y) are
\vec{i}+ \phi_x\vec{k} and \vec{j}+ \phi_y\vec{k}.
 
So where is my answer wrong for the first question? I'm still confused...
 

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