Homogeneous Differential equations

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The discussion revolves around homogeneous differential equations, specifically focusing on verifying that certain functions are solutions to a given homogeneous equation derived from a nonhomogeneous one.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the nature of the equations, questioning whether they are homogeneous and discussing the implications of the nonhomogeneous equation provided. There is an attempt to clarify the task of showing that specific functions are solutions to the homogeneous equation.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem, emphasizing the need to verify the solutions for the homogeneous equation rather than finding new solutions. Multiple interpretations of the task are being explored, particularly regarding the use of the functions y1 and y2.

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There is a noted assumption that participants understand the distinction between homogeneous and nonhomogeneous equations, which may influence their approach to the problem.

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in the following question i am asked to whow that Y1 and Y2 are basic solutions to the homogeneous equations
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for 4.1)

y=ex=y' =y''

xy'' - (x+1)y' + y = x2
xex - (x+1)ex + ex = 0

none of these seem to work, what am i doing wrong?
 
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are these equations even homogeneous?
 
No, the given equations aren't homogeneous, but the equations formed by dropping the terms from the right sides (replacing the right sides by 0) are homogeneous.
For 4.1, the homogeneous equation is xy'' - (x + 1)y' + y = 0. It's easy to show that y_1 and y_2 are solutions to this homogeneous equation. By "basic" I think it means that y_1 and y_2 are linearly independent (easy to show) and span the space of solutions to the homogeneous equation, which is of dimension 2.

Same approach for 4.2.
 
so what are they actually asking me to do? to show that by using y=e^x i can make the equation a homogeneous one??
 
No. Show that y = e^x and y = x + 1 are solutions to xy'' - (x+1)y' + y = 0. Note that these functions are NOT solutions to the nonhomogeneous equation, xy'' - (x+1)y' + y = x^2. The second problem is almost exactly the same.

Don't overthink this. You are not being asked to find solutions - just verify that the given functions are solutions to the homogeneous equations.
 
but i don't understand why they would give me the nonhomogeneous equation

also am i supposed to use y1 and y2 separately or at the same time, ie use y1 once prove that it is a solution and then use y2. or am i meant to use them together somehow
 
Dell said:
but i don't understand why they would give me the nonhomogeneous equation
I guess because they are assuming you know the difference between a nonhomogeneous equation and the associated homogeneous equation.
Dell said:
also am i supposed to use y1 and y2 separately or at the same time, ie use y1 once prove that it is a solution and then use y2. or am i meant to use them together somehow
Separately. However, if y1 and y2 are a set of basic solutions, which you need to show, then any linear combination of them is also a solution. IOW, if y1 and y2 are basic solutions to your 2nd order homogeneous DE, then y = c1y1 + c2y2 is a solution, and in fact represents all of them.
 

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