Horizontal escape of a projectile

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The problem involves the horizontal escape of a projectile, focusing on the relationship between the radius and angle in a gravitational field. The original poster presents equations related to angular momentum and escape velocity, indicating a need to derive a function for r(θ).

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the integration of a separable equation to find r(θ) and question the clarity of the original poster's goal regarding the minimum escape velocity. There are inquiries about the behavior of the integral and its intersection with the y-axis.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and providing insights into the integration process. Some guidance has been offered regarding keeping variables in symbolic form and utilizing trigonometric identities.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of specific values, such as the radius of the Earth, and constraints related to the integration results not crossing the y-axis, which may affect the problem's interpretation.

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Homework Statement



The problem is attached

Homework Equations



L=mr^2(dr/dt)
V_escape=(GM/R)^.5
E=L^2/(2mR^2)-(GMm)/R=0

The Attempt at a Solution


after some work i got:
dr/dtheta=((r^3/R)-r^2)^1/2
dont know what to do from here.
Thanks.
 

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I'm not completely clear on what it is you're trying to find. Is it the minimum velocity for escape for a horizontal launch?
 
I'm trying to find r(theta)
 
kraigandrews said:
I'm trying to find r(theta)

I see. Well, you're at the point where you'll have to integrate. The equation is separable into r and θ portions.
 
then second part of my question i have to do is find the coordinates where r(theta) crosses the y-axis however, where i run into the problem is the integral i found doesnot cross the y-axis
 
kraigandrews said:
then second part of my question i have to do is find the coordinates where r(theta) crosses the y-axis however, where i run into the problem is the integral i found doesnot cross the y-axis

Hmm. What did your integration and its result look like?
 
well seperating them it is dr/((r^3/R)-r^2)^1/2)=dtheta
i used wolframalpha and got:
what is attached and I used R= to 6.4E6m (radius of the earth)
 

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If you keep things in symbolic form a little longer, some good things might happen :smile:

Attached is a snapshot of a Wolfram Integrator output where for the function I've pulled an r2 out of the radical before letting the integrator loose.

Thus you have:
[tex]\theta = 2 tan^{-1} \left( \sqrt{\frac{r}{r_o} - 1}\right)[/tex]
which can be readily solved for r. Keep in mind the trig identity for tan(θ/2) :wink:
 

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