Horizontal Spring, Find Unstretched length

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a spring with a known stiffness and tension, where participants are tasked with finding the unstretched length of the spring and the energy stored when stretched between two points.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the total length of the spring and the amount of stretch, questioning how to correctly apply Hooke's law in this context. There is confusion regarding the definitions of the variables involved, particularly the distinction between total length and stretch.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into using Hooke's law to determine the amount of stretch, while others are exploring the implications of their assumptions about the spring's length and tension. There is an ongoing examination of the definitions and relationships between the variables.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the definitions of equilibrium position and stretch, as well as the implications of the given tension and stiffness values. There is a noted lack of clarity regarding the unstretched length of the spring and how it relates to the total stretched length.

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Homework Statement



A spring of stiffness 1500 N m-1 is stretched between two points 2 m apart. If the tension in the spring is 200 N, what was the unstretched length of the spring? And what is the energy stored in the spring when it is stretched between the two points?

Homework Equations



F=-K*x

U = 0.5 K*(x2)


The Attempt at a Solution



I don't even know where to begin from !

X0 is the position of equilibrium of the spring , so this is our reference point , meaning that if X0 is our first point and X1 is our second point , then A= 2 m , right ? So F=-kA but this isn't true ?! what can i do ? I thought we always measured everything relevant to X0 , so how can we find the unstretched part ?!
 
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In Hooke's law (your first equation), x stands for the amount of stretch (beyond the unstretched length). You're given the tension, so you can figure out x.
 
But we know x , it is 2m ( A=2m ) But 200 = 1500*2 isn't true .
 
ZxcvbnM2000 said:
But we know x , it is 2m ( A=2m ) But 200 = 1500*2 isn't true .
Nope. 2m is the total length of the stretched spring, not the amount of stretch. Use Hooke's law to find the amount of stretch.
 
So it should be F= k ( streched length - natural length ) = k( X1 - X0 )

Xo = X1 - 2/15 = 1.866666 m Therefore A=0.13333333333333 m .

so U=13.3 J . Thank you :)
 

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