Horizontal tangent to wolfram alpha's heart-shaped graph

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The discussion centers on finding horizontal and vertical tangents to the heart-shaped curve defined by the parametric equations x=16sin³(t) and y=13cos(t)-5cos(2t)-2cos(3t)-cos(4t). Users utilized Wolfram Alpha to solve the derivative equations dy/dt=0 and dx/dt=0, identifying real solutions for horizontal tangents at t=0.908 and its symmetrical counterpart. However, the graphing tool failed to display all expected solutions, particularly the symmetrical t-values and complex roots. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding parametric curves and their differentiability.

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  • #31
Thanks for the recommendation, Svein. But when you write

Svein said:
since a tangent vector in the y-axis direction is just as valid as any other tangent vector

valid for what? As a solution for dy/dx? It sounds as if you are saying that all tangent vectors, no matter which direction, are equivalent to one another. Perhaps you meant that a tangent vector, positioned on the y-axis, is the same as the same tangent vector, positioned anywhere else?
 
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  • #32
nomadreid said:
valid for what?
For a tangent vector.
nomadreid said:
As a solution for dy/dx?
No. dy/dx is an expression for the tangent when y is expressed as a function of x.
nomadreid said:
Perhaps you meant that a tangent vector, positioned on the y-axis, is the same as the same tangent vector, positioned anywhere else?
No. A tangent vector is a vector, tangent to a curve.
 
  • #33
You are saying "a tangent vector in the y-axis direction is just as valid as a tangent vector as any other tangent vector". I'm not sure I am parsing that right. Are you saying that if we are looking for any old tangent, we might as well take one in the vertical direction, if it exists, as one in some other direction? That would be true, but we are not looking for any tangent vector vt=[(48 sin2t (cos t)), - 13 sin t +10 sin (2t) +6 sin (3t) + 4sin(4t)] , but specifically the ones that will be the direction vectors (0,a) and (b,0) (a,b, non-zero) for vertical and horizontal tangents.
 
  • #34
nomadreid said:
but specifically the ones that will be the direction vectors (0,a) and (b,0) (a,b, non-zero) for vertical and horizontal tangents.
Using the formulas in #26, a tangent vector of the type (0, a) is given by \frac{dx(t)}{dt}=0 and a tangent vector of type (b, 0) is given by \frac{dy(t)}{dt}=0.
 

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