Horizontal tangents via implicit differentiation

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The discussion revolves around finding points of horizontal tangent lines for the equation x² + xy + y² = 6, which is identified as an ellipse. The original poster attempts to determine where the derivative dy/dx equals zero to find these points.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster calculates dy/dx and sets the numerator to zero, leading to the equation y = -2x. They express confusion about the implications of this result, questioning whether it suggests an infinite number of horizontal tangents despite the original equation being an ellipse.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with one confirming the original poster's findings regarding the substitution of y = -2x into the original equation. Another participant provides specific points where dy/dx equals zero, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the derived equation and the original ellipse, with participants questioning assumptions about the nature of the solutions and the implications of the derivative results.

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Homework Statement



Find the points (if any) of of horizontal tangent lines on :

x2 + xy + y2 = 6

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The Attempt at a Solution



So far I've concluded that I must find the points at which dy/dx = 0. I've solved for dy/dx and arrived at dy/dx = (-2x-y)/(x+2y)

I assume that I would just have to get a "0" in the numerator to satisfy the horizontal tangent but doing so gives me

-2x-y = 0 ==> y = -2x

This seems that there would be an infinite number of horizontal tangents (as long as the original denominator didn't equal "0") but the graph of the original equation, per Wolfram Alpha, seems to be an ellipse so I'm only looking for two solutions...

Have I missed a component of the concept or should I not be ending up with an ellipse?

Thank you
 
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If you plug y = -2x into the original equation you don't get infinite points.
 
I think I have it. In plugging in -2x for y in the original equation I get that x can be +/- sqrt(2) therefore y for x=sqrt(2) can be either -2sqrt(2) or sqrt(2) and y for x=-sqrt(2) can be either 2sqrt(2) or -sqrt(2).

Upon substitution of all possible pairs into the derivative, I've concluded that the only two points at which dy/dx=0 are: (sqrt(2), -2sqrt(2)) and (-sqrt(2), 2sqrt(2)).

Does this match what you have?

Thanks again.
 
Yes, that is correct.
 

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