Horizontal / Vertical Motion, Parabolic Motion

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The problem involves analyzing the motion of a ball thrown at a 45-degree angle, with a focus on its horizontal and vertical components. The ball remains in the air for 2.35 seconds, and the height from which it is thrown is 1.81 meters. Participants are exploring how to calculate the distance traveled by the ball and the initial velocities involved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the equations relevant to projectile motion and express uncertainty about how to incorporate the height of the thrower into their calculations. There is an exploration of the relationship between vertical and horizontal components of velocity due to the 45-degree launch angle.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations for initial vertical velocity based on the time the ball is in the air, while others are questioning the assumptions made regarding the height and the angle of launch. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these calculations on the overall problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working with limited information as the problem was presented verbally, and there is a lack of clarity regarding how to factor in the height of the individual throwing the ball.

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If this sounds ridiculously vague, I apologize - my physics teacher gave us this problem verbally and didn't want to clarify anything.

Homework Statement



A ball is thrown at a 45 degree angle to the ground and remains in the air for 2.35 seconds by an individual standing 1.81m. How far did the ball travel?

Homework Equations



I'm not really sure what equations would be suitable to use - I am unsure how I can calculate the initial horizontal speed of the ball. I know the horizontal and vertical components would be equal since it is a 45 degree angle but beyond this I am at a bit of a loss.

I used vyf = vyo + gt to calculate that vyf was 23.03, however I am unsure how to factor in the individuals height to the equation.
 
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If the individual throws a ball straight up (vertically) and it's in the air for 2.35 seconds, can you determine what the initial velocity is ?
 
Final vertical velocity = Initial vertical velocity + (force of gravity * time)
0 m/s = Vyo + (-9.81 m/s * 2.35s)
Vyo = ~23 m/s
Maybe?
 
Mello said:
Final vertical velocity = Initial vertical velocity + (force of gravity * time)
0 m/s = Vyo + (-9.81 m/s * 2.35s)
Vyo = ~23 m/s
Maybe?

That's if it takes 2.35 seconds to reach it's highest point.
 
Ahh, so it would be half of that so ~11.5 m/s?

If Vyo is 11.5 in a straight up situation, then I could assume (since the angle is 45 degrees) that Vyo = Vxo and therefore each initial velocity would be ~5.75 m/s?
 
Mello said:
Ahh, so it would be half of that so ~11.5 m/s?

If Vyo is 11.5 in a straight up situation, then I could assume (since the angle is 45 degrees) that Vyo = Vxo and therefore each initial velocity would be ~5.75 m/s?
No. You can assume that the vertical component, (v0)y is ~11.5 m/s .

Since the launch angle is 45°, the horizontal component of the velocity is also ~11.5 m/s .
 

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