Horrors of High School: Low Level of Understanding

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The discussion centers on perceptions of declining intelligence among high school and college students, particularly in subjects like physics. Participants express frustration over classmates' lack of basic understanding in math and science, with some attributing this to a general disinterest in learning or a belief that being smart is "uncool." There is a consensus that while intelligence may improve in college, many still encounter individuals who lack motivation or basic skills. The conversation touches on the idea that intelligence can be developed rather than being an innate trait, and that educational systems may not effectively address varying levels of aptitude. The notion of elitism is debated, with some arguing that recognizing differences in intelligence is not inherently elitist, while others caution against belittling those who struggle academically. Overall, the thread reflects a mix of frustration, humor, and philosophical musings on the nature of intelligence and education.
  • #31
Pengwuino said:
Yes but a large # of people are barely beyond the level fo tieing their shoes. Its not elitiest, its the truth.
I bet that those people also know how to use a spell checker.
 
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  • #32
Manchot said:
I bet that those people also know how to use a spell checker.

I doubt it.

Or wait, did you just show a little elitism? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
  • #33
Pengwuino said:
Yah and its funny in college because its costing them to be trendy lil morons. Oh well, better job market for me. I don't think fermilab hires based on looks :rolleyes:

Man that must really suck in the few socialist countries with free post-secondary education. Now no one has the monetary burden so there must be even mooooooooore idiots to deal with. At least here, a few idiots shy away because there paying maybe a few grand a year.

Yes it's true that more people go t collage in socialist and post-socialist countrys (I live in a post-socialist one). But as far as the post-socialist country in which I study goes, you just hav eto survive the first year of collage becouse most of the erxams are really hard and and the really stupid classmates don't pass (most qouit after a few weeks).
 
  • #34
LENIN said:
Yes it's true that more people go t collage in socialist and post-socialist countrys (I live in a post-socialist one). But as far as the post-socialist country in which I study goes, you just hav eto survive the first year of collage becouse most of the erxams are really hard and and the really stupid classmates don't pass (most qouit after a few weeks).

ha! Why would someone just quit after a few weeks. I mean you go through over a decade of school and then when it really starts to count, you just quit? Its not like the school should be much harder then high school! Except of course, the difficulty in only going in certain days and being able to skip classes without anyone caring and only going in for only about half as many hours as high school :rolleyes:
 
  • #35
Well the reason they qouit is in a few weeks is becouse of the first tasts that take time at that point. While more than 90% of all high school students graduate in there first attempt (and graduaition is supose to be hard(aldo it isn't)) only about 10% (lower% in science higer in social sciences%) of students sucesfuly finish this tasts in there first attempt (at the end of the first year around 40% of students finish these tests) and this discourages theme. Also students seam to reather worke to gain exstra money than study for the thughest subjects which also lowers the number of people whichenter the second year(after that the nuber is more or less constant).
 
  • #36
Pengwuino said:
I doubt it.

Or wait, did you just show a little elitism? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
If you can't take it, don't dish it.

(But seriously, five errors in one line of text? You have to admit that that's pretty bad, especially when you consider the content of the post.)
 

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