Hot Wheels Racing: Factors for Fast Cars & Modifications

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the physics of racing Hot Wheels cars, particularly focusing on factors that influence speed such as weight, aerodynamics, and modifications to enhance performance. Participants explore various aspects of car design and performance in a playful context, including comparisons to other racing formats like pine box derby cars.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the factors that make some Hot Wheels cars faster than others, suggesting weight and aerodynamics as potential influences.
  • Another participant proposes that increasing mass and reducing air exposure could enhance terminal velocity, while also noting the importance of reducing friction between the axle and chassis for achieving higher speeds.
  • A question is raised regarding whether the distribution of weight (front vs. back) affects performance, with one response suggesting minimal impact on Hot Wheels cars due to their small axle size.
  • Concerns are expressed about lubricating the wheels, with a participant recommending against it due to potential clogging issues, while also sharing nostalgic memories of using Hot Wheels products.
  • There is a suggestion to explore the use of magnets for partial levitation to reduce friction and weight in modified Hot Wheels cars, though one participant humorously notes the potential cost of such modifications.
  • Another participant draws a comparison to pine box derby cars, discussing how weight distribution can affect gravitational potential energy, but questions whether this principle applies to Hot Wheels cars.
  • References are made to historical racing practices, including the use of electromagnets in soap box derby cars, highlighting the competitive nature of racing modifications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the impact of weight distribution on speed, with some suggesting it may matter while others argue it likely does not. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the effectiveness of various modifications and the physics principles at play.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific characteristics of Hot Wheels cars and related racing formats, but there are limitations in the assumptions made about the physics involved, particularly regarding the scale and mechanics of the cars.

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I'm interested in the physics behind racing Hot Wheels cars. When you release the cars from an incline, what makes some cars go faster than others? What would be the most important factor of a fast car (ex. weight, aerodynamics, etc.)? How could I modify a car to go faster? Thanks!
 
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Increasing the mass and reducing the area of car exposed to the air would increase the "terminal velocity" of the car down the plane, (If that is the correct term for this situation.) Because all objects fall at the same rate, increasing the mass would not decrease it's acceleration. Also reducing the friction between the axle and chasis will enable a greater top speed.
 
Would it make a difference if the weight was on the front or back of the car?
 
Not for that kind of machine, to an appreciable degree. Loading one set of 'axles' more than the other would increase the frictional loss on one, but decrease it on the other. When you're dealing with an 'axle' of smaller diameter than a paper clip, I doubt that you could even measure it.
Believe it or not, I still have a few Hot Wheels cars... 40 years after the last time that I played with them.
 
Thanks!
 
You're welcome. Bye the by, I would seriously recommend against trying to lubricate the wheels. If memory serves, the 'axles' are about 1/2mm diameter spring steel. That going into hard plastic is about as close to frictionless as you can get for $5. Any lubricant other than graphite or silicone or Teflon would just clog it up. That's the same reason that you can't put oil, including WD40, in the pin area of a lock. It collects dust, which then becomes mud, which eventually becomes cement.

Just out of curiosity, did any of the other old farts around here have the 'supercharger' for Hot Wheels? That thing gave my cat hours upon hours of exercise.
 
I had one. Yup.
 
Cool. Our basement was about 35' long, with a concrete floor. I'd hold Snoopy back, launch the car out of the supercharger with about 1' of track, then let him go. I don't think that the car ever hit the wall before he got it. (Although he tumbled into the wall a couple of times after catching the car. :biggrin:)
 
Can you all invent an economical configuration using magnets for partial levitation, thus reducing friction/weight of this modified Hot Wheel?
 
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Of course, but it's going to cost you.
 
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katiecat486 said:
Would it make a difference if the weight was on the front or back of the car?
For pine box derby cars, having the as much weight at the back raises the center of mass on the sloped track, and therefore the car would have a bit more gravitational potential energy, assuming that the track ends up near horizontal for a reasonable distance. I don't know if it's enough to make a difference on a hot wheels car.
 
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I don't think Galileo would sponsor your crate. On second thought, you're right. Also wear a helmet of uranium.
 
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Loren Booda said:
I don't think Galileo would sponsor your crate. On second thought, you're right. Also wear a helmet of uranium.
Pine box, not soap box. The pine box models are those cars that used to start out as a small block of pine wood, but not you can buy pre-shaped models.

Regarding soap box cars, one clever idea was to use a electro magnet at the start, but that team got caught as the car kept winning by too much.
 
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I seem to remember the pine derby in the Boy or Cub Scouts. Can one use permanent magnets oriented relative to the Earth's magnetic poles?
 
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Jeff Reid said:
Pine box, not soap box

Hmmm... isn't that Grandpa Munster's dragster?
 
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Loren Booda said:
I seem to remember the pine derby in the Boy or Cub Scouts. Can one use permanent magnets oriented relative to the Earth's magnetic poles?
Getting this out of context. The electro magnet was used in soap box derby, the wooden equivalent motorless go-karts. Since the starting gate that dropped forwards was made of metal, a father and son team decided to get an advantage by using an electrical magnet that would use the power of the gate dropping to give the kart an initial forwards boost. Problem was that it worked too well, and it was obvious by the end of a run that something was going on, since it was so much faster than the other soap box carts.
 

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