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The discussion centers on the surprising rejection of a Republican-sponsored bill that had support from most Democrats, primarily due to the opposition from House Republicans. Key motivations for this opposition include concerns about partisanship, the potential backlash from constituents regarding perceived bailouts for Wall Street, and the upcoming elections. Many Republicans are wary of voting for a significant government bailout, fearing they would be accused of prioritizing corporate interests over their constituents. The relationship between House Republicans and their presidential candidate, John McCain, is strained, further complicating the situation. Critics argue that the proposed bailout plan was flawed and lacked justification, while some Republicans maintain a commitment to free-market principles, resisting government intervention. The rejection of the bill has led to significant market reactions, raising questions about the severity of the economic crisis and the effectiveness of alternative solutions. The conversation reflects a broader concern about the implications of the financial crisis and the political dynamics at play as lawmakers navigate their responsibilities to their districts and party ideologies.
  • #31
jimmysnyder said:
He's outta here. He is going to take such a beating from this one vote that last year he announced that he was retiring.
:smile:
 
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  • #32
Why are they taking a couple of days off?

I thought this was important.
Cancel a campaign important.
 
  • #33
Alfi said:
Why are they taking a couple of days off?

I thought this was important.
Religious holidays.
 
  • #34
There are going to be some amazing riders added to the bill today, the govt wants to get a $700B bill through urgently and needs your vote!
 
  • #35
Evo said:
Religious holidays.

The US government is taking time off because it's Ramadan - how culturally sensitive of them.
 
  • #36
mgb_phys said:
The US government is taking time off because it's Ramadan - how culturally sensitive of them.
It's for the Jewish holiday of Rosh Hashanah when no work is supposed to be done. It celebrates the anniversary of the creation of Adam and Eve.
 
  • #37
Art said:
It's for the Jewish holiday of Rosh Hashanah when no work is supposed to be done.
I know, I thought it was ironic that an instution famously consisting of white protestants should honour another religion like that and wondered why they picked one middle eastern religion and not the other other one.
 
  • #38
Following yesterday's bailouts European gov'ts had to step in again today, this time to rescue the Franco-Belgian financial services group, Dexia, at a cost of more than $9bn.
 
  • #39
mgb_phys said:
I know, I thought it was ironic that an instution famously consisting of white protestants should honour another religion like that and wondered why they picked one middle eastern religion and not the other other one.
Good point. You would expect them to pick a European religion like Christianity.
 
  • #40
mgb_phys said:
I know, I thought it was ironic that an instution famously consisting of white protestants should honour another religion like that and wondered why they picked one middle eastern religion and not the other other one.
Probably a lot of creationists amongst all those Republicans?
 
  • #41
The only thing these Communists are missing is a dozen votes in Congress. They didn't pass the bill this time because their constituents don't want it, and they won't ignore their constituents this close to election day. Unless the price is right. The folks in Congress are cheap whores and can be had for a slice of pork. I expect the next version of the bill to pass with 12 riders.
 
  • #42
The bill, with an amendment increasing the sum insured by the Fed for savers to $250K, will be voted on in the Senate tomorrow.
 
  • #43
Well it's passed the Senate and by a big majority,
US Senate backs new bail-out bill

The Senate has approved a new version of a $700bn (£380bn) rescue plan for the troubled US financial system.

Senators voted 74 to 25 in favour of the emergency legislation designed to stabilise volatile markets and limit further damage to the economy.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7647622.stm

Now will the lower house pass it? The difference seems to be there are relatively few senators up for re-election in Nov.
 
  • #44
Art said:
Well it's passed the Senate and by a big majority, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7647622.stm

Now will the lower house pass it? The difference seems to be there are relatively few senators up for re-election in Nov.
Only 1/3 of Senators are up for re-election every two years. The term of a senator is 6 years, while a Congressperson must face re-election every 2 years.
 
  • #45
So 8% of those facing re-election voted FOR or they are retiring anyway.
 

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