How can a Physics major relate to clean energy?

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The discussion centers around the potential for Physics majors to pursue careers in clean energy. Participants explore various pathways, job opportunities, and the relevance of a Physics degree in the clean energy sector, touching on research, internships, and the importance of additional qualifications.

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  • Some participants assert that a Physics degree can lead to jobs in clean energy, particularly in research roles.
  • Others argue that while there are opportunities, the path may not be straightforward and often requires advanced degrees like a PhD.
  • A few participants emphasize the importance of specializing in materials science to enhance job prospects in clean energy applications.
  • Some contributions suggest that internships related to energy are crucial for gaining relevant experience and improving employability.
  • There is a contention regarding the definition of "jobs in physics," with some participants viewing it as limited to academia and national labs, while others see broader applications in industry.
  • Several participants highlight that many Physics graduates do not pursue PhDs and often transition to other fields, raising questions about the viability of a Physics degree in the job market.
  • Some participants mention that a significant portion of jobs for Physics graduates are in materials science, which has applications in clean energy technologies.
  • One participant shares a resource for research internships in renewable energy, indicating opportunities for students and graduates.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion reflects multiple competing views regarding the career prospects for Physics majors in clean energy. While some participants believe there are ample opportunities, others express skepticism about the availability of jobs and the necessity of advanced degrees. No consensus is reached on the best path forward.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about the job market for Physics graduates, the relevance of additional qualifications, and the definition of careers "in physics." The discussion does not resolve these uncertainties.

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Students majoring in Physics, individuals interested in clean energy careers, and those considering advanced degrees in related fields may find this discussion relevant.

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Hello,
I am incredibly interested in Physics, so that is what I am majoring in Physics. However, I also want to do work in clean energy resources.
Can I get a job in clean energy with a Physics degree? If so, how?
 
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Of course you can get a job in clean energy related businness. Specially on research. I would start by doing research on companies or universities to see what can you do there.
 
There are a huge amount of clean energy jobs in physics. It's a matter of what kind of clean energy you're interested in, but a specialization in materials science will give you the best background.
 
You can, but its not the easiest path. If you want to do research you need to do a PhD, post docs and have some luck. Otherwise, I would suggest double majoring w/engineering or plan on an engineering masters.

In either case I suggest finding an internship related to energy (clean or otherwise) if you want a job besides being a physicist. If you want to go for the gold and get a job in physics then you should find a lab that is doing some kind of related research to work in during your undergraduate.

I do not agree that there are a huge amount of clean energy jobs in physics. There are not a lot of jobs in physics period, let alone in clean energy.
 
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You can, but its not the easiest path. If you want to do research you need to do a PhD, post docs and have some luck. Otherwise, I would suggest double majoring w/engineering or plan on an engineering masters.

In either case I suggest finding an internship related to energy (clean or otherwise) if you want a job besides being a physicist. If you want to go for the gold and get a job in physics then you should find a lab that is doing some kind of related research to work in during your undergraduate.

I do not agree that there are a huge amount of clean energy jobs in physics. There are not a lot of jobs in physics period, let alone in clean energy.

Of the jobs that there are in physics (this doesn't just include academia, btw), most of them are in materials science (it's something like 70%, IIRC). There are many applications of materials science to clean energy (from gold encrusted carbon nanotubes for better photo-voltaics through to understanding the behaviour of metals in hot plasma environments for fusion power). If you want to be a physicist, and work in clean energy, materials science is the way to go. It's not like the OP said they wanted to be a string theorist.
 
What are jobs "in physics"? To me, that means a researcher at a university or a national lab. Otherwise, there is no such thing as physics as a field in industry. Its an academic subject who's field lies in academia.

Do you mean jobs in engineering and technology that might use the knowledge and ability of a physics graduate?
 
I disagree. Physics is a very flexible field. I came from a theoretical chemistry group that actually did a lot of research relating to alternative energy regarding materials like photovoltaics. Many of the people came from physics backgrounds and a lot of the postdocs had done their PhDs in physics. Former members have gone into academia, national labs, and industry.
Doing a PhD in physics at a well known university gives you a lot of flexibility, especially applied physics. I know at my physics program we are allowed to do our PhD with advisors outside of the department. If you wanted to work in alternative energy you could study things related to materials science, electrical engineering, geophysics as a physicist
 
ModusPwnd said:
What are jobs "in physics"? To me, that means a researcher at a university or a national lab. Otherwise, there is no such thing as physics as a field in industry. Its an academic subject who's field lies in academia.

Do you mean jobs in engineering and technology that might use the knowledge and ability of a physics graduate?

A "job in physics" is a researcher who works in physics at a university, a national lab, or a private company. According to the AIP, something like 23% of the first jobs that PhD's get is in the private sector (compared to 57% in universities, 16% government) Most of whom are doing something physics or engineering related. http://www.aip.org/sites/default/files/statistics/employment/phdinitemp-p-12.pdf I don't have the long-term career data to hand, but I suspect this is representative.

Who do you think invents the better transistor?

ETA: The above information is US centric. Countries that have less in the way of R&D private industry (e.g. Australia) will have different results.
 
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Sure, but the majority of physics majors never get a PhD. Heck, most of them probably don't even graduate with their BS in physics... Of those that do graduate most go on to other fields because there is no physics industry.

I wouldn't consider doing something "physics or engineering related" as being "in physics". That might be seen as splitting hairs by some... but I'm an engineer by job title and I use zero physics at my job.

To the original question, if the poster wants to get a job with a physics degree he/she should shoot for the PhD. It looks like you and the poster above you are assuming that, I did not. I assumed he/she was thinking about a job with less than a PhD.
 
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ModusPwnd said:
Sure, but the majority of physics majors never get a PhD. Heck, most of them probably don't even graduate with their BS in physics... Of those that do graduate most go on to other fields because there is no physics industry.

I wouldn't consider doing something "physics or engineering related" as being "in physics". That might be seen as splitting hairs by some... but I'm an engineer by job title and I use zero physics at my job.

To the original question, if the poster wants to get a job with a physics degree he/she should shoot for the PhD. It looks like you and the poster above you are assuming that, I did not. I assumed he/she was thinking about a job with less than a PhD.

The stats still show that most jobs in industry for physicists were in physics.

Sure, then our advice aligns - therubbydubby - if you want to do a PhD, consider materials science. If you don't, consider engineering.
 
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I just remembered getting a pitch from these guys once. There are some paid research opportunities for students and post graduates of all levels and it revolves around renewable energy.

http://www.netl.doe.gov/research/on-site-research/research-internships
 
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