How can a simulation improve understanding of the inclined plane for students?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the effectiveness of a simulation created to help students understand the inclined plane and the associated forces. Participants explore various teaching methods, including the use of simulations and hands-on experiments, and express their views on the reliability of such tools in educational contexts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant created a simulation using GeoGebra to aid students' understanding of the inclined plane and seeks feedback on its helpfulness.
  • Another participant suggests that hands-on experiments with a trolley and a variably inclined plane may better address conceptual difficulties, expressing skepticism about the reliability of simulations.
  • Some participants argue for a combination of real experiments and computer simulations to enhance understanding, while emphasizing the importance of students engaging with the mathematics themselves.
  • Concerns are raised about students potentially relying too heavily on simulations without grasping the underlying concepts or performing calculations.
  • There is a mention of a forthcoming test that may serve as a measure of the simulation's effectiveness in improving student understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of views, with some advocating for the use of simulations and others emphasizing the need for traditional hands-on methods. There is no consensus on the effectiveness of the simulation versus real-world experiments, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to teaching the concept of the inclined plane.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of distinguishing between effective simulations and less reliable representations, as well as the necessity for students to engage in mathematical reasoning rather than solely relying on simulations.

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Hi.

As a teacher I know that many of my students find it difficult to understand the inclined plane and the forces involved. So I decided to create a simulation using geogebra. I uploaded a video to Youtube showing how the simulation works:



The simulation is free to download if you want to try it out. What do think of my simulation, is it helpful? Do let me know! Get the simulation here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3906570/Inclined_plane.ggb
 
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If your students find it hard, give them a trolley, a variably inclined plane and a spring. That should sort out the conceptual aspects of it - even if their results aren't perfect.
I am glad I am not a student these days. I would suspect every simulation because I would be playing computer games in my spare time and we all know they are only as factual as the author chooses to make them. The only 'simulation' you can trust is the Mathematical Model.
 
sophiecentaur said:
If your students find it hard, give them a trolley, a variably inclined plane and a spring. That should sort out the conceptual aspects of it - even if their results aren't perfect.
I am glad I am not a student these days. I would suspect every simulation because I would be playing computer games in my spare time and we all know they are only as factual as the author chooses to make them. The only 'simulation' you can trust is the Mathematical Model.
I agree. Using only "computer games" is not my way of teaching. But sometimes I find that the mix of real experiments combined with computer aided simulations can increase the students understanding.
 
Christian Turre said:
I agree. Using only "computer games" is not my way of teaching. But sometimes I find that the mix of real experiments combined with computer aided simulations can increase the students understanding.
I guess it could be argued that students need to have the difference between proper simulations and computer games spelled out to them, so your point is a fair one. However, it is essential that they should be doing the Maths themselves and not think that the simulation is the whole story.
I get the impression that many of the EE students (in particular) who post here have never done a serious calculation or connected up an actual circuit. That sort of virtual world is not a real education.
 
Christian Turre said:
Hi.

As a teacher I know that many of my students find it difficult to understand the inclined plane and the forces involved. So I decided to create a simulation using geogebra. I uploaded a video to Youtube showing how the simulation works:



The simulation is free to download if you want to try it out. What do think of my simulation, is it helpful? Do let me know!


The proof will be whether the students who find the inclined plane difficult to understand find this helpful.
 
PeroK said:
The proof will be whether the students who find the inclined plane difficult to understand find this helpful.
And whether it actually results in their being able to apply what they feel they understand when answering exam questions and dealing with real situations.
But I have to approve of any feel - good factor that any teaching method can produce.
 
PeroK said:
The proof will be whether the students who find the inclined plane difficult to understand find this helpful.
We have a test in June. So then I'll have "the proof".
 

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