How Can I Calculate the Coefficient of Thermal Expansion for a Material?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the coefficient of thermal expansion for a rod based on its length measurements at two different temperatures. The problem involves understanding the effects of thermal expansion on both the rod and a steel ruler used for measurement.

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  • Participants explore how to incorporate the thermal expansion of the steel ruler into the calculation of the rod's expansion. Some express confusion about how to adjust their calculations to account for the ruler's expansion.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using the same thermal expansion equation for both the rod and the ruler. There is an ongoing exploration of how to combine the results of these calculations to arrive at the correct coefficient for the rod.

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Participants note the importance of recognizing that both the rod and the ruler expand when heated, which complicates the measurement process. There is a lack of consensus on the exact method to combine the changes in length for both materials.

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Homework Statement



At 20°C, a rod is exactly 21.03 cm long on a steel ruler. Both the rod and the ruler are placed in an oven at 270°C, where the rod now measures 21.26 cm on the same ruler. What is the coefficient of thermal expansion for the material of which the rod is made? The linear expansion coefficient of steel is 11 x 10-6 /C°.

Homework Equations



change in length = rod length * coefficient of linear expansion * change in temperature (C)

The Attempt at a Solution



I can find out the thermal expansion of the rod, but how does the coefficient of steel go into that equation?! I cannot figure it out. Here is my attempt:

0.0023m = 0.2103 * coefficient of linear expansion * 250
Therefore, the coefficient of linear expansion is about 4.4e-5, but that answer is wrong. Please help! Thanks in advance to all help!
 
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The steel ruler also expands so the change in length of the rod isn't simply 0.23cm
 
so what would the equation look like then? thanks for the help! much appreciated!
 
You have the correct equation
change in length = rod length * coefficient of linear expansion * change in temperature (C)

The only extra complexity is that you have to calculate the increase in length of the steel ruler (using the same equation) and then use that to work out the real increase in length of the rod. Then use the same equation to work out the expansivity of the rod.

You could also use the difference in exapansivity between rod and steel but you are more likely to make a mistake that way
 
so do i add them together? i don't quite understand what you mean...

to calculate the change in length of the steel, i just calculate:

0.2103m * 11e-6 * 250 degrees celsius = change in length of the steel

+

0.0023m / (0.2103m * 250 degrees celsius) = coefficient of linear expansion of the rod

= what my answer should be?!? Please let me know ASAP! Thanks again for the help!
 
satchmo05 said:
so do i add them together? i don't quite understand what you mean...

to calculate the change in length of the steel, i just calculate:

0.2103m * 11e-6 * 250 degrees celsius = change in length of the steel

+

0.0023m / (0.2103m * 250 degrees celsius) = coefficient of linear expansion of the rod

= what my answer should be?!? Please let me know ASAP! Thanks again for the help!

You start out with both being cold. You have the measurement on the ruler. When both are heated the ruler gradations expand by the coefficient of thermal expansion, which distorts the measurement at the higher temperature. So ...

Take the measurement you get from the hot ruler and recognize that in "cold" terms this measurement represents what that measure has expanded to. In your case, then your original Rod measures .2103. And on the hot ruler they say it measures .2126. So that means .2126 cold + its thermal expansion should be what the heated rod measures in terms of a "cold" measure.

Length of rod = .2126*(1 + 250*11*10-6)

Knowing the amount then that the rod has changed in length from the original should allow you to now calculate the thermal expansion coefficient.
 

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