How can I convert Newtons to Henrys?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the question of converting Newtons, a unit of force, to Henrys, a unit of inductance, in the context of a high school science project comparing space shuttle liftoff to a magnetic liftoff using coils. Participants explore the feasibility of such a conversion and discuss related concepts in physics.

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  • Homework-related, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about converting Newtons to Henrys, questioning if they are thinking in the right direction for their project.
  • Another participant clarifies that a Newton measures force while a Henry measures inductance, stating that no conversion is possible between the two units, likening it to converting an apple into an orange.
  • A different participant agrees with the previous point, emphasizing that conversion is not feasible but suggests calculating the force exerted by a magnet or electromagnet as a relevant approach for the project.
  • One participant proposes that the student could find the power of the space shuttle engines and assume a similar power requirement for a magnetic solution, while noting practical challenges such as the effectiveness of magnets over long distances and the acceleration needed in a rail gun scenario.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that a direct conversion between Newtons and Henrys is not possible. However, there are differing views on how to approach the student's project, particularly regarding the use of power calculations and the practical implications of using magnetic solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention potential complexities in applying magnetic solutions, including issues related to distance and acceleration, which may not have been fully explored or resolved in the discussion.

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I'm in high school and I haven't taken physics yet, but I'm doing a science project where I'm comparing a space shuttle liftoff to a liftoff using a magnetic field created by coils. I found the force that the space shuttle uses at liftoff and now I have to scale it down. When I scale it down, how can I convert it to Henrys so I can use the right amount of power. Am I thinking in the right direction?

I'm sorry if this is a newbie question, its just I don't have much guidance.
 
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What he said. You can't convert between the two.

However you can calculate the force that a magnet/electromagnet would apply to a piece of metal. You might need to do this when designing a relay - for example when trying to work out the strength of the return spring.

This might also help..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnet#Force_exerted_by_magnetic_field
 
If you haven't taken any physics yet the links we post above are likely to be too difficult.

One approach might be to find out the power of the space shuttle engines and then assume that roughly the same sort of power would be required using a magnet solution.

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/StaverieBoundouris.shtml

However in practice there would be a bunch of issues. Not least how to get a magnet solution to work over very long distances.

If you use a rail gun approach the problem is the acceleration needed to reach the required velocity in the short length of the gun.
 

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