How Can I Create a Low Frequency Radio Transmitter Using a Speaker?

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The discussion revolves around the creation of a low-frequency radio transmitter using a speaker, specifically targeting frequencies of 3 Hz, 9 Hz, or 12.5 Hz. Participants explore various methods for generating these low frequencies and the implications of transmitting them, including legal considerations and technical challenges.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a PC or microcontroller with a D/A converter to produce the desired low-frequency signal, mentioning the potential of using a headphone jack with suitable software.
  • Another proposes building a mass-spring system with magnetic pickup and amplified feedback to generate low frequencies.
  • A different approach involves spinning a small magnet within a magnetic loop to create an oscillating electrical signal, which could yield a clean sine wave.
  • Concerns are raised about the practicality of using an antenna for such low frequencies, with calculations indicating that a full-wave antenna for 3 Hz would be excessively long (62000 miles).
  • Some participants question the necessity of an antenna, suggesting alternative methods of transmission without traditional radiative systems.
  • There is a discussion about the output requirements, with one participant expressing uncertainty about achieving a high output level (185 dB) through a computer's headphone jack.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the intention to transmit the signal via a speaker rather than through an antenna, with a specified maximum transmission distance of 20 meters.
  • One participant acknowledges the misunderstanding regarding the original post's intent, emphasizing the need for caution when using high sound levels.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views on the methods for generating low-frequency signals and the feasibility of transmission without traditional antennas. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach and the technical challenges involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the legal implications of transmitting radio signals and the technical challenges of generating and outputting low-frequency signals accurately. There are unresolved questions about the effectiveness of various proposed methods and the limitations of available equipment.

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Hello,

Lately i have came across an interesting article. Currently i am interested in synthesizing a long wavelength (3Hrtz, 9 Hertz or 12.5 Hertz) at a strong power. The transmitter circuit can be of low voltage which will later on be converted by a multiplayer to a strong signal (which is not a problem). My difficulty is to make that radio transmitter which will create such low frequencies.
Any ideas?

Thanks...
 
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Off the top of my head I see three means beyond the classic RCL circuits you'll find in your standard transistor circuit cookbook.

DSP: Use a PC or microcontroller with D/A converter to produce the signal. (Your trusty laptop can output this via the headphone jack using suitable freeware. Google search: freeware, function generator).

Electro-mechanical 1: At such low frequencies you should be able to build a mass spring system with magnetic pickup and amplified feedback.

Electro-mechanical 2: You could spin a small magnet with a variable speed motor within a magnetic loop at 3, 9, or 12.5 rpm and you'll get a resulting oscillating electrical signal. This should produce a pretty clean sine-wave.

The oscillator is no real problem, you are talking about the low end of audio frequencies and indeed subsonic. So think "Audio frequency" in this setting. For example try a google search of the terms "analog electrical circuits tone generator". The hard part may be getting a good sine waveform at these low frequencies without producing harmonics.
 
gabrielshier said:
Hello,

Lately i have came across an interesting article. Currently i am interested in synthesizing a long wavelength (3Hrtz, 9 Hertz or 12.5 Hertz) at a strong power.

What do you plan on using for an antenna? You must own a lot of land! Also, keep in mind that pretty much the whole radio spectrum is protected by federal and international law. You can't just make a transmitter and start transmitting at any old wavelength. What are the applicable laws that you are aware of for this wavelength?
 
Jambaugh, first of all, thanks for the quick response.
The second option sounds the best. A clean good sine wave is exactly what i need. Could you please explain about the practice of it? With the magnetic flux i am quiet familiar.
 
"What do you plan on using for an antenna?"

Let's see. Length of a full wave antanna = ((186000miles/sec)/3Hz) = 62000 miles. Is that right. That's really long.
 
dlgoff said:
"What do you plan on using for an antenna?"

Let's see. Length of a full wave antanna = ((186000miles/sec)/3Hz) = 62000 miles. Is that right. That's really long.

And who said I'm going to use an antenna? Aren't there different other kind of wavelength transmitions?
 
If you want an EM emission, you need to match the transmitter output to something than can radiate.
Check out the size of these antenna. They are/were used for frequencies in the hundereds of kilohertz. Now think about your long waves at 3Hz.
 
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The output is not radio or any antena depending system. The answer to my question i received with the best solution i could hope for. The computer based function generator will be the best solution. The only problem i have now left, which I'm quite sure i can overcome, is how to output the function at 185dB...
Just not sure how accurate the function generator output is through the computer phone jack.
 
gabrielshier said:
Hello,

Lately i have came across an interesting article. Currently i am interested in synthesizing a long wavelength (3Hrtz, 9 Hertz or 12.5 Hertz) at a strong power.

Very interesting question! I wonder what article are you reading? Perhaps you can fill us in on more information about your plan. Do you want to transmit this LF signal over a distance? Approximately how far? Do you also want to hear this signal on a radio reciever?
 
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Ouabache said:
Very interesting question! I wonder what article are you reading? Perhaps you can fill us in on more information about your plan. Do you want to transmit this LF signal over a distance? Approximately how far? Do you also want to hear this signal on a radio reciever?

The function will be transmitter via a speaker and not using an antenna. The max distance the function will need to be traveling to is 20 meters. The problem now is finding a speaker that can output such low frequencies.
 
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gabrielshier said:
The function will be transmitter via a speaker and not using an antenna. The max distance the function will need to be traveling to is 20 meters. The problem now is finding a speaker that can output such low frequencies.

Ohhhh. Audio. I get it now. We were thrown off in your original post (OP) where you said this:

gabrielshier said:
My difficulty is to make that radio transmitter which will create such low frequencies.

So now my comments about you needing a lot of land for the antenna and permission from the FCC and Navy are no longer applicable. Just be careful where you point that big-old speaker at 180dBA !
 

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