How can I find a function f that satisfies f'(x)=x^3 and is tangent to x+y=0?

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The discussion revolves around finding a function f such that its derivative f'(x) equals x^3 and is tangent to the line defined by the equation x + y = 0. Participants are exploring the relationship between the function and the tangent line, as well as the implications of the derivative on the function's behavior.

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  • Participants discuss the integration of the derivative to find the general form of the function f(x) and the conditions for tangency with the line. There are attempts to determine the correct value of the constant C and questions about how to mathematically demonstrate the conditions for tangency.

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Some participants have offered hints regarding the slope of the tangent line and the conditions under which the function and the line are tangent. Multiple interpretations of the function and its properties are being explored, with ongoing attempts to clarify the relationship between the function and the tangent line.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of the derivative being positive and the constraints imposed by the tangency condition. There are indications of confusion regarding the correct form of the function and the value of the constant C.

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Hello Everyone,

I'm trying to do this question:

Find a function f such that f'(x)=x^3 and the line x+y=0 is tangent to the graph of f.

Now to find the general equation of f(x) all you have to do is take the extremely basic integral of F'(x) which is going to be f(x) = x^4/4 +C.

Now the question asks you to find the equation so that f'(x) and x+y=0 is tangent to this equation. I really have no idea how to go about doing thing to be honest. At first I thought that maybe you could set f'x equal to x+y =0 solve, and then set the answer equal to f(x) but I did this and my answer was horrible wrong. Any suggestions on how to go about this question?
 
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HINT: The slope of the line x + y = 0 is -1 and you are to find the point at which this line is tangent to the function whose derivative is given as a function of x.
 
Oh that helps. I don't know why I always miss the simple things like that. Thanks, I'll go back now and see if i can figure it out. I appreciate it.
 
Ok, so I now know that the function must be as follows:

f(x)= -x^4/4 +C

Now just by graphing you can tell that the value of C must also be -1 in order for the line y=-x to be tangent to the graph of f(x), but I cannot seem to show this mathematically.
 
Crap, I just noticed that the function cannot equal -x^4/4 it has to be positive so the derivative can be positive, meaning that my answer has to be x^4/4 +1, which I still am unsure of how to show that C must equal 1 mathematically. Any suggestions?
 
HINT: At what point does f ' (x) = -1?
 
Haha, sometimes I cannot believe myself, ok here is my solution:

when f'(x) =-1, y=1
so if you subsitute these x and y values into the equation of the original function and solve for C you get :

f(x) = x^4/4 +3/4
 

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