How Can I Find the Derivatives of this Complex Function Using Derivation Rules?

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The original poster attempts to find the first and second order derivatives of a complex function involving products and quotients of polynomial expressions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of product and quotient rules, with some suggesting cross multiplication and others emphasizing the importance of correctly applying differentiation terminology. There are questions about the original poster's approach and attempts to clarify the correct method for differentiation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing varying levels of guidance and clarification. Some participants have offered suggestions on how to approach the differentiation process, while others have pointed out potential misunderstandings regarding terminology.

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There seems to be some confusion regarding the terminology of differentiation versus derivation, and participants are addressing this as part of the discussion.

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Homework Statement


I am supposed to find the first and second order derivative of
[tex]p=\left(\frac{q^{2}+3}{12q}\right)\left(\frac{q^{4}-1}{q^{3}}\right)[/tex]


Homework Equations


Derivation Sum and Difference as well as Product and Quotient Rules


The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to cross multiply and use the product rule on the resulting equation but its wrong.
I am not sure what to do.
 
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Cross multiplication is for when a Fraction = a Fraction. When you multiplied them did you get... (x^2+3)(x^4-1) / 12x^2. Then take the quotient rule of the entire function and don't forget to use the product rule where necessary for the numerator. It'll start to look ugly, but such is calculus sometimes.

I am only a member and I just joined today, but I hope this helps a bit. :|
 
Ugh. First thing is it's called "differentiation" the process of obtaining the derivative. Derivations are from solving proofs.
 
Luongo said:
Ugh. First thing is it's called "differentiation" the process of obtaining the derivative. Derivations are from solving proofs.

Differentiation and derivation can both be used. Take for example a derivation algebra. Proofs are not solved they may be found, constructed, studied, verified, or repaired, but not solved.
 
One could see this by use of Derivation Sum and Difference as well as Product and Quotient Rules, but expanding the function may be prefered.
[(q^2+3)/(12q)][(q^4-1)/(q^3)]=(q^2+3-q^-2-3q^-4)/12
 
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