How Can I Find the Volume of a Solid Bounded by Three Coordinate Planes?

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of a solid bounded by the three coordinate planes and two planes defined by the equations x + y + z = 2 and z = x + y. Participants are exploring the correct limits for a triple integral to calculate this volume.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of a triple integral and express uncertainty about the limits of integration. There are attempts to identify the intersection of the planes and how it affects the volume calculation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints and guidance regarding the limits of integration, while others are questioning their understanding of the geometric interpretation of the solid. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct approach to defining the region of integration.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention drawing traces on the planes and plotting the solid in 3D to better understand the region. There is a recognition that the region touches the xy-plane at a single point, which influences the interpretation of the bounds.

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Can someone help me with this?

Homework Statement


Find the volume V of the solid S bounded by the three coordinate planes, bounded above
by the plane x+ y+ z = 2, and bounded below by the plane z = x+ y.

Homework Equations


x + y + z = 2
z = x + y

The Attempt at a Solution


[itex]\int_{0}^{2}\int_{-x}^{2-x}\int_{x+y}^{2-y-x}dzdydx[/itex]
So I used the above triple integral and got -4(did it twice), wolfram-alpha's calculator gives me 0 and the textbook answer is 1/3

So obviously I did something wrong in the triple integral and in identifying the limits.
But I just want to know the right limits for the above question as I have problems identifying them (I drew traces(attached) on the planes but not sure if the region's right)
 

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hqjb said:
Can someone help me with this?

Homework Statement


Find the volume V of the solid S bounded by the three coordinate planes, bounded above
by the plane x+ y+ z = 2, and bounded below by the plane z = x+ y.

Homework Equations


x + y + z = 2
z = x + y

The Attempt at a Solution


[itex]\int_{0}^{2}\int_{-x}^{2-x}\int_{x+y}^{2-y-x}dzdydx[/itex]
So I used the above triple integral and got -4(did it twice), wolfram-alpha's calculator gives me 0 and the textbook answer is 1/3

So obviously I did something wrong in the triple integral and in identifying the limits.
But I just want to know the right limits for the above question as I have problems identifying them (I drew traces(attached) on the planes but not sure if the region's right)
Hello hqjb. Welcome to PF !

Where do the planes, x+ y+ z = 2 and z = x+ y intersect ?
 
SammyS said:
Hello hqjb. Welcome to PF !

Where do the planes, x+ y+ z = 2 and z = x+ y intersect ?

Hey thanks.
I suppose that's more of a hint than an answer right?

I think you'll get y=1-x,
tried and got the right answer with [itex]\int_{0}^{2}\int_{0}^{1-x}\int_{0}^{2-y-x}dzdydx[/itex]
but I am not sure why
 
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hqjb said:
Hey thanks.
I suppose that's more of a hint than an answer right?

I think you'll get y=1-x,
tried and got the right answer with [itex]\int_{0}^{1}\int_{0}^{1-x}\int_{0}^{2-2y-2x}dzdydx[/itex]
but I'm not sure why
The lower bound for the z integral is wrong --- should be x+y .

You will often get hints and other guidance, so that you will then understand how to solve a problem.
 
SammyS said:
The lower bound for the z integral is wrong --- should be x+y .

You will often get hints and other guidance, so that you will then understand how to solve a problem.

Yes, I am hoping to understand this too. That wasn't an attempt to answer but a random integral that got the answer lol.

I finally got it after plotting the thing in 3d. my x-y trace was wrong it should be the line of intersection between the two planes.

Why can't it be if I let z=0 for both equations and draw the region?
 
hqjb said:
Yes, I'm hoping to understand this too. That wasn't an attempt to answer but a random integral that got the answer lol.

I finally got it after plotting the thing in 3d. my x-y trace was wrong it should be the line of intersection between the two planes.

Why can't it be if I let z=0 for both equations and draw the region?
The region only touches the xy-plane (z = 0) at a single point, the origin.
 
SammyS said:
The region only touches the xy-plane (z = 0) at a single point, the origin.

Alright understood, so i shouldn't use the x-y trace in this case because there isn't one.
And the bounds are 0 < y < 1-x , 0 < x < 1, x+y < z < 2-x-y ?

Thanks for your patience and help.
 

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