How Can I Increase Electrostatic Force in the Grinding Wheel Industry?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around methods to increase electrostatic force in the grinding wheel industry, specifically in the context of lifting heavy grains on a conveyor belt using electrostatic attraction. Participants explore theoretical and practical approaches to enhance this force without increasing the voltage supplied.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about ways to increase electrostatic force without raising the voltage, suggesting initial charging of the grains as a potential solution.
  • Another participant proposes that electrostatic force is influenced by electrical field density and suggests that changing the shape of the conductor could enhance the electric field without altering the voltage.
  • A later reply discusses the importance of electrode shape and its impact on emission characteristics, noting that different shapes can affect the corona current and efficiency in handling fine particles.
  • Further elaboration includes a theoretical explanation of the breakdown potential in relation to electrode geometry, emphasizing the need for careful consideration of electrode forms for specific applications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of uncertainty regarding the specific problem and proposed solutions. There is no consensus on the best approach to increase the electrostatic force, and multiple viewpoints regarding the influence of conductor shape and electrode design are presented.

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Limitations include assumptions about the effectiveness of different electrode shapes and the specific conditions under which electrostatic forces operate. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical or theoretical complexities involved in the proposed solutions.

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How to increase electrostatic force?
I am from grinding wheel industry, on one process grains are placed on the belt conveyor. Below this conveyor aluminum sheet is connected with 11 KV power supply. Then backing disc is brought near the conveyor. then grains are lifted towards the backing disc by electrostatic force. i am actually facing the problem of grain lifting problem in heavy grains. Can anybody help in this. how to increase this electrostatic force? i can't increase the voltage.

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Is there any way of charging these grains initially that may also help in lifting these grains
 
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I am not sure about your problem, but generally the electrostatic forces is subjected to electrical field density ( E= F/Q) and you can increase E ( with changing of conductor shape) without any change in conductor voltage.

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m.s.j said:
I am not sure about your problem, but generally the electrostatic forces is subjected to electrical field density ( E= F/Q) and you can increase E ( with changing of conductor shape) without any change in conductor voltage.

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what changes in shape, we are using aluminum sheet of rectangular shapes.
 
As I said I don't know detail your problem, I just try to submit some explanation about related electrostatic theory.
It is often assumed that a voltage V between two electrodes may be adequately insulated by placing a homogeneous insulating material of breakdown strength Eb which is considered as a characteristic constant of the material, between these electrodes. The necessary separation d may then simply be calculated as d = V/Eb. Although the electrodes are usually well defined and are limited in size and shape ( cylindrical, spherical , rectangular and so on).
The selection of a discharge electrode form for a specific duty demands careful consideration, since each form of electrodes has its own specific emission characteristic. Although the controlled emission electrode has excellent high corona current capabilities, making them ideal for handling fine particles by helping to overcome space charge or corona suppression effects, in the absence of suppression conditions, the total corona current developed can be significantly higher than a normal lower emission type. This not only means that the transformer rectifier equipment must be much larger, but the power consumption will also be significantly higher, for the same level of efficiency.
Qualitatively, the following equation represents the breakdown potential of such a system, where the radius of the inner electrode, r, is very much smaller than R, the radius of the outer passive electrode, i.e. r << R:
E = A + C/r 1/3
where E is the electrical breakdown field, r is the radius of the inner electrode, and A and C are experimental constants.


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